Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:22:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:22:52 -0400 Received: from stargazer.compendium-tech.com ([64.156.208.76]:28688 "EHLO stargazer.compendium.us") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:22:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:24:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelsey Hudson X-X-Sender: khudson@betelgeuse.compendium-tech.com To: "David S. Miller" cc: thunder@lightweight.ods.org, , Subject: Re: 2.4 and full ipv6 - will it happen? In-Reply-To: <20020819.162340.133733118.davem@redhat.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1842 Lines: 37 On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, David S. Miller wrote: > From: Thunder from the hill > Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:34:51 -0600 (MDT) > > We're using it for years now. Works well, made me incredibly happy ever > since. Just too cool thing. > > The keyword is "you", you are using is locally at your site. > > There are zero backbone ipv6 routers, everyone is still tunneling > or has a custom network layout for their usage. And it's the condescending, "Nobody else uses it, why should I?" attitude that will prevent it from gaining more popularity. There are people using it. There are people who want to see it mainstreamed. Face it, IPv4 is inadequate for today's needs. What happens when the entire IPv4 addressing space is exhausted? Move to NAT? I don't think so. NAT is a temporary solution to a permanent problem, and IMO the wrong solution. There are still applications out there where bona fide end-to-end transparency is still a requirement. NAT destroys that, and therefore makes those applications either unusable, or difficult to use without special configurations. No, IPv6 may not be mainstream yet, but there *are* people who want to use it. Just because you don't, doesn't mean that nobody else should. I, for one, will welcome IPv6's adoption with open arms. Kelsey Hudson khudson@compendium.us Software Engineer/UNIX Systems Administrator Compendium Technologies, Inc (619) 725-0771 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/