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Subject: Re: 2.4 and full ipv6 - will it happen?
From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Thunder from the hill <thunder@lightweight.ods.org>
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On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 22:44, Thunder from the hill wrote:
> When you'll have to connect through a NAT wall to a server, you'll be damn 
> ot of luck. And the possibility to achieve something in a weird way 
> through a ten thousand of backdoors does not justify the dismissal of a 
> cool technology that would make it just too easy to handle. Not to 
> mention IPv4 is far too dangerous. I've had to write heaps of reports 
> saying that you can spoof a personality using IPv4 security holes, just 
> because some person was under accusation of things he's never done. 
> Remember Rubin Carter, 1976?

With the exception that IPv6 avoids the IPsec/fragmentation required
contradiction its no more secure. Network security is basically nil.
When you look at the kind of web of trust required to fix it and how
easily 'trusted' crypto companies are scammed I dont think its fixable

So IPv6 neither helps nor hinders

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