Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754390Ab2HIJTu (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Aug 2012 05:19:50 -0400 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:44673 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752867Ab2HIJTf (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Aug 2012 05:19:35 -0400 Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 11:19:33 +0200 Message-ID: From: Takashi Iwai To: Thierry Reding Cc: Jaroslav Kysela , David Henningsson , alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: hda - Defer probe when loading patch firmware In-Reply-To: References: <1344494723-6827-1-git-send-email-thierry.reding@avionic-design.de> <20120809070813.GA6979@avionic-0098.mockup.avionic-design.de> <20120809073642.GA24695@avionic-0098.mockup.avionic-design.de> <20120809080713.GC24808@avionic-0098.mockup.avionic-design.de> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL/10.8 Emacs/24.1 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 4099 Lines: 91 At Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:21:15 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > At Thu, 9 Aug 2012 10:07:13 +0200, > Thierry Reding wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 09:42:48AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > At Thu, 9 Aug 2012 09:36:42 +0200, > > > Thierry Reding wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 09:31:30AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > > > At Thu, 9 Aug 2012 09:08:13 +0200, > > > > > Thierry Reding wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 08:57:13AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > > > > > At Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:45:23 +0200, > > > > > > > Thierry Reding wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent changes to the firmware loading helpers cause drivers to stall > > > > > > > > when firmware is loaded during the module_init() call. The snd-hda-intel > > > > > > > > module requests firmware if the patch= parameter is used to load a patch > > > > > > > > file. This patch works around the problem by deferring the probe in such > > > > > > > > cases, which will cause the module to load successfully and the driver > > > > > > > > binding to the device outside the module_init() call. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the "recent" change meant 3.6 kernel, or in linux-next? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In anyway, I don't understand why such a change was allowed. Most > > > > > > > drivers do call request_firmware() at the device probing time. > > > > > > > If this really has to be resolved in the driver side, it must be a bug > > > > > > > in the firmware loader core code. > > > > > > > > > > > > A good explanation of the problem and subsequent discussion can be found > > > > > > here: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/49975 > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but it doesn't justify this ugly module option. > > > > > It's a simple bug. Papering over it with this option doesn't fix > > > > > anything. > > > > > > > > It's not an option, all it does is defer probing if and only if the > > > > patch parameter was specified to make sure the firmware load won't > > > > stall. I realize that this may not be an optimal solution, but at least > > > > it fixes the problem with no fallout. > > > > > > Ah sorry, I misread the patch. > > > > > > Then it shouldn't be checked at that point. Since 3.5 kernel, the > > > probing code was already split for vga_switcheroo support. > > > > Yes, I saw that. But unless you actually use vga_switcheroo, the second > > stage, azx_probe_continue(), will still be called from azx_probe() and > > therefore ultimately from module_init(). > > Yeah, but this could be easily delayed. The split was already done, > so the next step would be to return after the first half at probe, > then call the second half later. > > > Before coming up with this patch I actually did play around a bit with > > using the asynchronous firmware load functions but it turned out to be > > rather difficult to do so I opted for the easy way. The biggest problem > > I faced was that since patch loading needs to be done very early on, a > > lot of the initialization would need to be done after .probe() and many > > things could still fail, so cleaning up after errors would become > > increasingly difficult. > > async probe is also on my TODO list, but it's deferred ;) > > > > The point you added is the second stage. > > > > I don't understand this sentence. > > I meant that your patch added the check at the second-half probing > function (azx_probe_contine()). That is, it could be already the > point triggered by vga_switcheroo handler, not via module_init any > longer. > > So, after rethinking what you suggested, I wrote a quick patch below. > Could you check whether this works? Obviously it won't work if the module is re-loaded manually. The -EPROBE_DEFER would work only at boot time, as it seems. 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