Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760266Ab2HJXKB (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:10:01 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:54746 "EHLO mail.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754862Ab2HJXJy (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:09:54 -0400 Message-ID: <50259494.8060304@zytor.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:09:08 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120605 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: "J. Bruce Fields" , Stanislav Kinsbursky , Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com, davem@davemloft.net, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, eric.dumazet@gmail.com, xemul@parallels.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, devel@openvz.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] net: connect to UNIX sockets from specified root References: <20120810125701.7115.71612.stgit@localhost.localdomain> <50254FA6.3060806@zytor.com> <20120810192628.79a34d28@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk> <20120810191149.GA17985@fieldses.org> <20120810202818.06236f46@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20120810202818.06236f46@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1382 Lines: 33 On 08/10/2012 12:28 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > Explicitly for Linux yes - this is not generally true of the AF_UNIX > socket domain and even the permissions aspect isn't guaranteed to be > supported on some BSD environments ! Yes, but let's worry about what the Linux behavior should be. > The name is however just a proxy for the socket itself. You don't even > get a device node in the usual sense or the same inode in the file system > space. No, but it is looked up the same way any other inode is (the difference between FIFOs and sockets is that sockets have separate connections, which is also why open() on sockets would be nice.) However, there is a fundamental difference between AF_UNIX sockets and open(), and that is how the pathname is delivered. It thus would make more sense to provide the openat()-like information in struct sockaddr_un, but that may be very hard to do in a sensible way. In that sense it perhaps would be cleaner to be able to do an open[at]() on the socket node with O_PATH (perhaps there should be an O_SOCKET option, even?) and pass the resulting file descriptor to bind() or connect(). -hpa -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/