Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:55:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:55:56 -0400 Received: from dhcp101-dsl-usw4.w-link.net ([208.161.125.101]:31715 "EHLO grok.yi.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:55:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3D690D10.5040601@candelatech.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:00:00 -0700 From: Ben Greear Organization: Candela Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1b) Gecko/20020722 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: linux-kernel Subject: Re: packet re-ordering on SMP machines. References: <3D6884BC.5090004@candelatech.com> <1030286473.16651.7.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1812 Lines: 56 Alan Cox wrote: > On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 08:18, Ben Greear wrote: > >>By re-ordered, I mean that a method called from process_backlog in dev.c >>is being handed packets in a different order than they are being poked into >>the driver with hard_start_xmit on the other interface. If each CPU can be running the >>process_backlog, then I can see how this could be happening. >> >> >>1) Is this expected behaviour? > > Yes > > >>2) Is there any standard (ie configurable) way to enforce strict ordering on an >> SMP system? > > No > > >>3) If answer to 2 is no, would you all be interested in a patch that >> did allow strict ordering (if indeed I can figure out how to write one)? > > > You should never need it. Ethernet, hubs, switches, routers, internet > backbones etc will all cause packet re-ordering. You should also expect > the percentage of re-ordered frames on the net to rise and rise. I would like to detect the number of pkts that such backbone hardware does re-order, so if my end machine is also re-ordering, I cannot get valid numbers. Thanks, Ben > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > -- Ben Greear President of Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com ScryMUD: http://scry.wanfear.com http://scry.wanfear.com/~greear - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/