Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759352Ab2HXMnP (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:43:15 -0400 Received: from esgaroth.petrovitsch.at ([78.47.184.11]:4170 "EHLO esgaroth.petrovitsch.priv.at" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757095Ab2HXMnM (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:43:12 -0400 Subject: Re: Drop support for x86-32 From: Bernd Petrovitsch To: wbrana Cc: Ondrej Zary , Martin Nybo Andersen , linux-kernel Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:40:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <201208231814.21168.tweek@tweek.dk> <201208231951.28606.linux@rainbow-software.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3 (3.0.3-1.fc15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1345812057.28613.20.camel@thorin> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-DCC-URT-Metrics: esgaroth.petrovitsch.priv.at; whitelist Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2722 Lines: 65 On Don, 2012-08-23 at 20:07 +0200, wbrana wrote: > On 8/23/12, Ondrej Zary wrote: > > Please stop trolling (and top-posting). Linux is NOT Windows where people > > must > > throw out their hardware because it stopped working in new version. There > > are > > millions of 32-bit x86 machines all around the world. If new Windows will > > not > > run on them, Linux will. > Windows 9 will be probably released in 2015. Linux always has tree What do you mean with "Linux"? The Linux kernel as such? Some (and which) distributions? > with long term support, which means support for x86-32 would be > dropped in 2017. In 2017 all 32-bit machines will be trash. The long-term-supported *Linux kernel* won't be eternally there BTW. And their maintainers decide when they drop the support - and others could take over then BTW. And you obviously never thought about embedded devices. Servers, laptops, notebooks and desktop computers are not the whole computing world - and from the pure numbers not even the majority BTW. It is - obviously(?) - all the world that MSFT cares about because they were never really present elsewhere. And we know that it is not a technical reason that we pay the MSFT tax for each laptop .... Please stop trolling and start sending patches. Thank you. On Don, 2012-08-23 at 20:40 +0200, wbrana wrote: On 8/23/12, David Daney wrote: > > I suspected as much. So from your point of view, this issue is of > > exactly zero importance. > I'm using software which is developed by others. As I already said > many software would be developed faster if x86-32 could be dropped. Please proof that it will be developed "faster" (whatever that means to you). Thank you. > Support for x86-32 can mean no support for X32. So you want the Linux kernel people to drop support for some architecture in the hope others follow (because you will consequently send mails there with "the Linux kernel dropped the support, you should too" hoping that some other software will be developed "faster" (whatever that means to you)? *If* you really miss something in some other parts (compilers, virtualization, ...) or they developing to slow *for you*, help them and send patches there but do not try to lure others into fighting your cause. Sorry to all others for feeding the troll, Bernd -- Bernd Petrovitsch Email : bernd@petrovitsch.priv.at LUGA : http://www.luga.at -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/