Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756315Ab2JCQoA (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:44:00 -0400 Received: from mail-vb0-f46.google.com ([209.85.212.46]:47110 "EHLO mail-vb0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755667Ab2JCQn6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:43:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20121002195042.GA16087@www.outflux.net> <20121003132538.GE13192@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 12:43:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] make CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL invisible and default From: Josh Boyer To: Kees Cook Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Eric W. Biederman" , Serge Hallyn , "David S. Miller" , Andrew Morton , Frederic Weisbecker , Greg Kroah-Hartman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2477 Lines: 51 On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Kees Cook wrote: > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:25 AM, Paul E. McKenney > wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 12:50:42PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: >>> This config item has not carried much meaning for a while now and is >>> almost always enabled by default. As agreed during the Linux kernel >>> summit, it should be removed. As a first step, remove it from being >>> listed, and default it to on. Once it has been removed from all >>> subsystem Kconfigs, it will be dropped entirely. >>> >>> CC: Greg KH >>> CC: "Eric W. Biederman" >>> CC: Serge Hallyn >>> CC: "Paul E. McKenney" >>> CC: Andrew Morton >>> CC: Frederic Weisbecker >>> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook >>> --- >>> >>> This is the first of a series of 202 patches removing EXPERIMENTAL from >>> all the Kconfigs in the tree. Should I send them all to lkml (with all >>> the associated CCs), or do people want to cherry-pick changes from my >>> tree? I don't want to needlessly flood the list. >>> >>> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/kees/linux.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/experimental >>> >>> I figure this patch can stand alone to at least make EXPERIMENTAL go >>> away from the menus, and give us a taste of what the removal would do >>> to builds. >> >> OK, I will bite... How should I flag an option that is initially only >> intended for those willing to take some level of risk? > > I'm not sure I understand what you mean? The intention of removing > EXPERIMENTAL is effectively like turning it on everywhere, so this > first patch does that. As we go forward we can remove the its > redundant use in all the Kconfigs, until it is finally removed for > real. He's asking "how do I add a feature/option into Linus' tree that I'm really not ready for random people and/or distros to enable". The short answer is "don't merge that into Linus' tree" I guess. Keep it in a git branch or patchset somewhere else. Perhaps those willing to take the risk are also willing to apply the patches? josh -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/