Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 08:47:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 08:47:46 -0400 Received: from ns1.mscsoftware.com ([192.207.69.10]:41967 "EHLO draco.macsch.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 08:47:45 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Martin Knoblauch Reply-To: martin.knoblauch@mscsoftware.com Organization: MSC.Software GmbH To: riel@conectiva.com.br Subject: Re: Benchmarks for performance patches (-ck) for 2.4.19 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 14:50:53 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Message-Id: <200209021450.53449.martin.knoblauch@mscsoftware.com> X-AntiVirus: OK! AntiVir MailGate Version 2.0.1.2; AVE: 6.15.0.0; VDF: 6.15.0.6 at mailmuc has not found any known virus in this email. Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1455 Lines: 45 >> I mean, besides making the kernel with as low latency as possible, what >> is bad about the responsiveness in the kernel? If there's any lag in >> responsiveness that i see it's always something X related, particularly >> Xfree86. > > >"low latency" != responsiveness > > >Any latency which is below the point the user can notice >is effectively zero, so whether the 10000 wakeups/minute >that the user doesn't notice are 2ms or 5ms don't really >matter. absolugtely correct. My main grief wrt. responsiveness of desktop systems is when the VM decides to grow the cache at the cost of pushing parts of KDE into swap. As a result, "activating" windows that I haven't touched for some time takes noticeable delays, which ruins the interactiveness. My best setup for this is to have lots of memory and disable swap (and live with the consequences- eg. triggering the OOM killer). Admittedly, things seem to be much better now than six month ago. Martin -- Martin Knoblauch Senior System Architect MSC.software GmbH Am Moosfeld 13 D-81829 Muenchen, Germany e-mail: martin.knoblauch@mscsoftware.com http://www.mscsoftware.com Phone/Fax: +49-89-431987-189 / -7189 Mobile: +49-174-3069245 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/