Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 18:25:59 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 18:25:59 -0400 Received: from h24-67-14-151.cg.shawcable.net ([24.67.14.151]:63992 "EHLO webber.adilger.int") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 18:25:58 -0400 From: Andreas Dilger Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 16:28:37 -0600 To: Matti Aarnio Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Stupid anti-spam testings... Message-ID: <20020902222837.GM32468@clusterfs.com> Mail-Followup-To: Matti Aarnio , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20020902215019.GB5834@mea-ext.zmailer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020902215019.GB5834@mea-ext.zmailer.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-GPG-Key: 1024D/0D35BED6 X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7A37 5D79 BF1B CECA D44F 8A29 A488 39F5 0D35 BED6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1700 Lines: 37 On Sep 03, 2002 00:50 +0300, Matti Aarnio wrote: > Quite a many of vger's recipients are doing return-path verification > testing for SMTP's MAIL FROM address. > > I would not mind that, EXCEPT that those bloody stupid things don't > have any sane caches at all! VGER is sending 300+ messages per > day to 3500+ recipients of linux-kernel list EVERY DAY, and every > outgoing message is now getting oodles of those probes! > > Folks, when you deploy that kind of testers, DO VERIFY THAT THEY > HAVE SANE CACHES! A positive result shall be cached for at least > two hours, a negative result shall be cached for at least 30 minutes. Do you know if this is one of the default checks from spamassassin? I would imagine that a lot of people (including myself) have it installed, so it is possible that it (or some other widely-used tool) now does this sort of check out-of-the-box, and the people who are installing them have no idea about the kind of load it generates on vger. I doubt that there are a large number of people who are independently misconfiguring their mail setup this way If it is possible to track what tool is causing the problem and fixing the default setup of that tool at the source, it will probably solve 99% of the problems in one go (after the list knows to which version they should upgrade). Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Dilger http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/