Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754963Ab2JVOXc (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:23:32 -0400 Received: from david.siemens.de ([192.35.17.14]:34612 "EHLO david.siemens.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750927Ab2JVOXb (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Oct 2012 10:23:31 -0400 Message-ID: <508556D6.4010802@siemens.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:23:18 +0200 From: Jan Kiszka User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); de; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080226 SUSE/2.0.0.12-1.1 Thunderbird/2.0.0.12 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gleb Natapov CC: Avi Kivity , Xiao Guangrong , Marcelo Tosatti , LKML , KVM Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86: fix vcpu->mmio_fragments overflow References: <20121022114311.GQ29310@redhat.com> <508531E1.2030307@siemens.com> <508539A8.40404@redhat.com> <50853FF1.8010809@siemens.com> <20121022125301.GS29310@redhat.com> <50854232.8090309@siemens.com> <508542EF.5050401@redhat.com> <508544B6.6070301@siemens.com> <20121022130810.GW29310@redhat.com> <5085495D.6060307@siemens.com> <20121022140056.GY29310@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20121022140056.GY29310@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2264 Lines: 48 On 2012-10-22 16:00, Gleb Natapov wrote: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 03:25:49PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote: >> On 2012-10-22 15:08, Gleb Natapov wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 03:05:58PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote: >>>> On 2012-10-22 14:58, Avi Kivity wrote: >>>>> On 10/22/2012 02:55 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote: >>>>>>> Since the userspace change is needed the idea is dead, but if we could >>>>>>> implement it I do not see how it can hurt the latency if it would be the >>>>>>> only mechanism to use coalesced mmio buffer. Checking that the ring buffer >>>>>>> is empty is cheap and if it is not empty it means that kernel just saved >>>>>>> you a lot of 8 bytes exists so even after iterating over all the entries there >>>>>>> you still saved a lot of time. >>>>>> >>>>>> When taking an exit for A, I'm not interesting in flushing stuff for B >>>>>> unless I have a dependency. Thus, buffers would have to be per device >>>>>> before extending their use. >>>>> >>>>> Any mmio exit has to flush everything. For example a DMA caused by an >>>>> e1000 write has to see any writes to the framebuffer, in case the guest >>>>> is transmitting its framebuffer to the outside world. >>>> >>>> We already flush when that crazy guest actually accesses the region, no >>>> need to do this unconditionally. >>>> >>> What if framebuffer is accessed from inside the kernel? Is this case handled? >> >> Unless I miss a case now, there is no direct access to the framebuffer >> possible when we are also doing coalescing. Everything needs to go >> through userspace. >> > Yes, with frame buffer is seems to be the case. One can imagine ROMD > device that is MMIO on write but still can be accessed for read from > kernel, but it cannot be coalesced even if coalesced buffer is flushed > on every exit. Usually, a ROMD device has a stable content as long as it is fast read/slow write. Once it switches mode, it is slow read as well. Jan -- Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RTC ITP SDP-DE Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/