Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:24:15 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:24:15 -0400 Received: from e35.co.us.ibm.com ([32.97.110.133]:173 "EHLO e35.co.us.ibm.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:24:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 11:26:49 -0700 From: "Martin J. Bligh" Reply-To: "Martin J. Bligh" To: Gerrit Huizenga , "David S. Miller" cc: hadi@cyberus.ca, tcw@tempest.prismnet.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com, niv@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: Early SPECWeb99 results on 2.5.33 with TSO on e1000 Message-ID: <60449712.1031311608@[10.10.2.3]> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.2 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1620 Lines: 34 >> One of our goals is to actually take the next generation of the most >> common "large system" web server and get it to scale along the lines >> of Tux or some of the other servers which are more common on the >> small machines. For some reasons, big corporate customers want lots >> of features that are in a web server like apache and would also like >> the performance on their 8-CPU or 16-CPU machine to not suck at the >> same time. High ideals, I know, wanting all features *and* performance >> from the same tool... Next thing you know they'll want reliability >> or some such thing. >> >> Why does Tux keep you from taking advantage of all the >> feature of Apache? Anything Tux doesn't handle in it's >> fast path is simple fed up to Apache. > > You have to ask the hard questions... Ultimately, to me at least, the server doesn't really matter, and neither do the absolute benchmark numbers. Linux should scale under any reasonable workload. The point of this is to look at the Linux kernel, not the webserver, or specweb ... they're just hammers to beat on the kernel with. The fact that we're doing something different from everyone else and turning up a different set of kernel issues is a good thing, to my mind. You're right, we could use Tux if we wanted to ... but that doesn't stop Apache being interesting ;-) M. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/