Return-Path: Message-ID: <9bd2f8970809290947l51182d4u1ddd951dd8f321c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:47:12 +0900 From: "Emmet Hikory" Sender: emmet.hikory@gmail.com To: "Bastien Nocera" Subject: Re: [PATCH] Make bluetooth-properties fit on smaller displays Cc: Mario_Limonciello@dell.com, marcel@holtmann.org, linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <1222701730.3311.76.camel@cookie.hadess.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 References: <1222679240.1825.14.camel@violet.holtmann.net> <1222679724.3311.53.camel@cookie.hadess.net> <1222701730.3311.76.camel@cookie.hadess.net> List-ID: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 10:05 -0500, Mario_Limonciello@Dell.com wrote: >> Hi Bastien & Marcel: >> >> Here's the screenshots as requested: >> >> Old: http://imagebin.org/27644 >> >> New: http://imagebin.org/27643 >> >> A lot of these MID devices don't have screens bigger than 1024x600 >> (some 800x600 depending on their aspect ratio). This change really >> just reorganizes the GUI so that both laptops and MID devices can use >> the same layout. I'm attaching an updated patch relative to 1.6. > > Both versions would fit on both those screens. What's wrong with leaving > it as is? In the worst case, I'd move the contextual buttons to the side > of the treeview, instead of underneath, and add labels to those buttons. Good day. I adapted the suggested patch for this from one previously shipped in Ubuntu by Michael Frey and Loic Minier. My actual test screens were 1024x600 (intel driver) and 800x600 (vesa driver), running under the hildon-desktop environment. If I'm running in clean GNOME@96DPI, the default looks OK, but there is only space for two or three devices. If I'm running under hildon-desktop, there's only space for one device. As one of these screens is actually 247 DPI, running at 96 DPI tends to make everything nearly unreadably small. Note that I've also tested with GNOME+devilspie, to force maximisation, which created a bit more space, but not hugely more space. In practice, I use a keyboard, headset, communication to a yet smaller portable device, and communication to my laptop. I'd like to add a mouse, GPS device, and printer. I'm experimenting with a "bluetooth handset" for making VoIP calls, which would be a separate audio device for ekiga/empathy. As a result, my device listing easily exceeds the limits imposed by the vertical layout on a small screen. Whlie this may be an exceptional case, I think "mouse, keyboard, headset, phone, printer" isn't an unreasonable list of accessories, even for a regular laptop user. One possible solution would be to write a separate hildon front end, which is probably the best solution for 640x480 or 800x480, but for 800x600 and 1024x600, the use case for using themed GNOME with higher DPI hinting is strong enough that having a separate front-end seems confusing. Mind you, I don't want to limit the experience on high-resolution low-DPI screens, and will admit that I don't have the equipment to properly test this use case. If the consensus is that it the result of moving the device listing to the right creates an unpleasant experience for these users, then perhaps it is not a sensible default. -- Emmet HIKORY