Return-Path: Subject: Re: What is the motivation for conn->power_save From: Marcel Holtmann To: Nick Pelly Cc: linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <35c90d960911121639o8b0b0bfxde880af69adc9f95@mail.gmail.com> References: <35c90d960911121639o8b0b0bfxde880af69adc9f95@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:14:58 +0100 Message-ID: <1258082098.7715.7.camel@violet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-bluetooth-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Hi Nick, > If I understand correctly, conn->power_save prevents the host stack > from requesting active mode if it was not the host stack that > requested sniff mode. > > I don't understand the motivation for this. If we have ACL data to > send, then it seems like a good idea for the host stack to explicitly > request active mode, regardless of the reason that we entered sniff > mode. > > We want to enter active mode more aggressively when setting up SCO > connections, to avoid a 5 second delay with certain sniff modes. But > the conn->power_save code is getting in the way and doesn't appear to > be useful in the first place. we have discussed this a few times. And if you lock through the code history then you see that initially we just took devices out of sniff mode if we had to send data. However with HID devices this falls flat on its face. They need to stay in control of sniff mode if they initiated it. Some of them crash and others just drain the battery. With sniff mode you can send small amounts of data even while in sniff and for HID that is sometimes used. So the remote side better not interfere. What we really need is a socket option where we can control this on a per socket basis if we take devices out of sniff mode. And one extra case might be when we try to establish a SCO channel, because then it is clearly not an HID device. However even A2DP has this sort of problems sometimes where the stream setup takes time. Not sure if we have to make SCO setup special. The only reason would be if there is a case where we don't get an AT command before SCO needs to be established. Regards Marcel