Return-Path: Subject: Re: Getting link quality or RSSI From: Marcel Holtmann To: Davide Pesavento Cc: linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <1280764595.12579.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1280775482.12579.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:09:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1280786989.12579.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-bluetooth-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Hi Davide, > >> >> I'm writing an application to retrieve the current link quality (or > >> >> RSSI) between my laptop's Bluetooth adapter and a specific remote > >> >> device (my mobile phone). In order to do that I'm of course using the > >> >> latest version of BlueZ, but I've encountered several issues so far. > >> >> > >> >> The dbus API exposed by bluetoothd doesn't have any GetRSSI or > >> >> GetLinkQuality methods. Would it be possible to export these methods > >> >> in the public API? > >> > > >> > the link quality is vendor specific according to the specification and > >> > the RSSI of an existing connection is rather useless. So we don't bother > >> > to export those. > >> > > >> > >> Does this mean you're going to reject a patch which adds those methods > >> to the dbus API? > > > > constantly polling them via D-Bus, yes I would reject such a patch. To > > make this proper you would need a kernel patch first that polls the RSSI > > and/or link quality when a ACL is established and not in power saving > > mode. Then you need to use this data to send async signals via D-Bus. > > > > I have done both, let me assure you that some chips don't provide proper > > RSSI values. Then link quality is vendor specific and we can't do > > anything real useful with it (except it is a CSR chip). So I have don't > > the whole exercise and figured out that it is rather useless feature of > > Bluetooth. > > > >> >> Then I looked at the bluetooth HCI library that comes with bluez. > >> >> First of all, is there any reasons why it's totally undocumented? > >> >> Anyway, I noticed hci_read_link_quality() and hci_read_rssi() in > >> >> hci_lib.h and tried using them. Since they seem to require an > >> >> established connection, I also used hci_create_connection(). However I > >> >> soon discovered that creating a connection requires root privileges, > >> >> is that right or did I do something wrong? > >> >> > >> >> Furthermore, even when running the program as root, the connection > >> >> gets established only for a few seconds and then it disconnects from > >> >> the remote device. Is this behaviour intended? How can I specify to > >> >> keep the connection alive indefinitely? > >> > > >> > If you don't have an active connection that is used, the kernel will > >> > terminate any idle ones. So using hcitool for this is rather pointless > >> > unless you have a profile already using that connection. > >> > > >> > >> "using a connection" means pushing some traffic over it? > >> Is there no other way to prevent the kernel from terminating idle connections? > > > > You don't need to transfer data, but you need a reference count on the > > ACL link. And that can only happen by opening a L2CAP socket. > > > >> By the way, I've read in the Bluetooth specs that there exists an > >> extended inquiry mode which allows the host to gather the RSSI of > >> available devices too. How can I perform such kind of inquiry from my > >> application using bluez? > > > > Nice idea, but RSSI from inquiry result and RSSI from an ACL are not the > > same. You can't compare them properly to make sense out of them. I tried > > that as well. Please read the specification again to see their > > difference when it comes to power control on the low level baseband. > > > > Well, that's a non-issue. If I decide to go that way, I'll only use > RSSI from inquiry results so I don't need to compare RSSI values > coming from different sources. > How could I trigger an inquiry with RSSI reporting? that is one by default if the hardware supports it. Regards Marcel