Return-Path: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:23:46 -0400 From: "John W. Linville" To: Dan Williams Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, johannes@sipsolutions.net, marcel@holtmann.org, Samuel Ortiz , Gustavo Padovan , linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfc@ml01.01.org Subject: Re: Linux Wireless Mini-Summit in New Orleans -- 19-20 September Message-ID: <20130909192346.GC1955@tuxdriver.com> References: <20130808185410.GD30925@tuxdriver.com> <20130808190428.GF30925@tuxdriver.com> <20130905133907.GE1947@tuxdriver.com> <1378397092.3580.21.camel@dcbw.foobar.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <1378397092.3580.21.camel@dcbw.foobar.com> Sender: linux-bluetooth-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 11:04:52AM -0500, Dan Williams wrote: > On Thu, 2013-09-05 at 09:39 -0400, John W. Linville wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 03:04:29PM -0400, John W. Linville wrote: > > > Sorry, forgot to copy linux-bluetooth and linux-nfc... > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 02:54:11PM -0400, John W. Linville wrote: > > > > Greetings! > > > > > > > > This is a reminder that we will have a Linux Wireless Mini-Summit in > > > > New Orleans this year on 19-20 September. This will immediately follow > > > > LinuxCon and will run concurrently with Linux Plumber's Conference. > > > > This event includes Linux developers for wireless LAN (802.11), > > > > Bluetooth, and NFC technologies. Both kernel and userland developers > > > > are welcomed and heartily encouraged to attend! > > > > > > > > http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Summits/New-Orleans-2013 > > > > > > > > The link above is a Wiki. We are using it to collect discussion > > > > topics and to negotiate agenda/scheduling options for the event. > > > > Please go there to record your intent to attend the event and to > > > > propopse topics for discussion. > > > > > > > > Please be aware that in order to attend the event above one must > > > > register for either LinuxCon or for Linux Plumbers Conference. > > > > Act now, before those events fill-up and close their registrations! > > > > > > > > We are allotted one "large" room (up to ~80 people "theater style"), and > > > > two "small" rooms (up to ~25 people) for this event. Based on history > > > > and the numbers of contributors, the larger room will primarily be > > > > for the 802.11 discussions and any "plenary" topics while the smaller > > > > rooms will be for Bluetooth, NFC, and any "breakout" topics. > > > > > > > > So...thoughts? Topics to discuss? > > > > Ping? We're now just 2 weeks away! > > > > Is our topic list complete? It looks a bit light... > > > > Anyone have any input on scheduling the topics? Are there any > > overlapping LPC sessions that it would make sense to work around? > > I'm attending though I haven't put my name on the wiki yet. > > Random thoughts; it doesn't look like any of these are covered in the > regular LinuxConf or LPC sessions. > > 1) State of the Union (maybe by multiple people in the same session per > their expertise), since perhaps not everyone doing eg 802.11 stuff knows > what's happening in BT or NFC land, or not everyone working on a > specific driver may know what new stuff their driver might need to be > fixed up for. Maybe 5 minutes or less for things like: > > * what's under the most active development right now? > * upcoming new driver, hardware, and new capabilities > * new 802.11 standards > * and what's coming up in the next year from the standards orgs > * what people will start working on soon > * what will 3.13 or 3.14 look like from a wireless perspective? > * 11s mesh status? > * anything interesting in wpa_supplicant land? > * anything new/interesting on the Android front? > > 2) Bluetooth - update about what's new and what's coming up in Bluez > land, and interaction with kernel 802.11 if any, > > 3) NFC - update about what's new and what's coming up in NFC land, where > it's getting used, what the stack looks like > > 4) What are users having the most problems with and how these problems > be fixed better/more quickly? Are they driver bugs? Are they stack > bugs? Supplicant bugs? NM/GUI/etc bugs? Is there anything in our > development processes that's not working as smoothly as it could be? Thanks, Dan -- those all look like decent discussion points. I've added most of the points above to the topic list: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Summits/New-Orleans-2013 Now, we need a few volunteers... Gustavo, can you do a session on Bluetooth developments? Samuel, can you cover NFC? Jouni, would you mind doing your usual update on the standards activities? Also, is there anything new/interesting to report on wpa_suppliant and/or hostapd? Johannes, would you cover your vision for mac80211 for the next year or so? Anything in progress now that needs to be discussed? Who should cover any Android topics? Arend, Kalle, Johannes, Luca, etc -- anyone want to talk about driver developments and/or issues between drivers and mac80211 or other parts of the stack? Seth, Stanislaw, etc -- anyone want to cover issues dealing with supporting wireless in distributions? Dan Williams, Daniel Wagner, etc -- anyone got some user stories to share? Dan Williams, Marcel Holtmann -- how about a NM vs. ConnMan death match?? :-) Let's get this stuff fleshed-out! John P.S. Has everyone added themselves to the attendee list? It looks a little short... -- John W. Linville Someday the world will need a hero, and you linville@tuxdriver.com might be all we have. Be ready.