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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id o24si64886ejc.754.2020.10.15.19.01.08; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 19:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-bluetooth-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=EpFcBgv5; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-bluetooth-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-bluetooth-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1732388AbgJOXAV (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 15 Oct 2020 19:00:21 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:51626 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1732386AbgJOXAV (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Oct 2020 19:00:21 -0400 Received: from mail-oi1-x234.google.com (mail-oi1-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::234]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A083C061755 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 16:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi1-x234.google.com with SMTP id q136so307814oic.8 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 16:00:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JnAXPeDYy1S/qvcUYpj96TTQBn9DWRHtlOI/cVKexUQ=; b=EpFcBgv5nO4h6Z1p5FwCeaUwCpKqUlngGVchI2XvKWjfmmqOLX8CtcJT+L6V2IddYB p3B85maN1xxMrkg8B7fE37JpKdssMaD/pvJs2V83ldLRs0QcdXu9mtiKqYU5D6cqx0wi 4x235tFYqO9YdT0s9vbdX+K5Q8g7UwRbBEilNwdR+R0kjp7Peyg/g982aUufzQC5CbCx SUGklHqqjgNaz6ALyIuCvBGvZLl98C7hsRHE49jGbw5LqvEWf4zpvhqFyRQQLyNxCJnM jFCQ0u0uInoD026upmS5hZ5ls/5A9XT7f1XTxHVek99xcyJ8OBQQb+v9cKNqY7TROvQ3 6shg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JnAXPeDYy1S/qvcUYpj96TTQBn9DWRHtlOI/cVKexUQ=; b=tfQ/EL8tKhktHjY0A5myhuvmalgC9Jrck7QdmoaZPYDfXXxn4Pu17Nex5F/7hytmBN qJW4vs9VSTdph46bSeSnUDfG5w8niUv774V6cQnabncpAfKdlZbE1PPWBUPwIHXVkHQs Rl2YCgLGS0srdsM6YWzhY7hGuUJhkjmr32lPqAM9EYyNOFNd9MZOIwArPq02p2V1r6TY ckA9XWW+7u4p0BX0diyCb56UoHc3hTHBDKhFkfiUAWu7gSLmTGf8J8/3T5hd+/7fyf9X J4zCs1TEb3B8ppnvRVyDD0+vjsrx92kfRQRG1OZGT1EvIeypXIcX16m+MMjfC8067ytx AFTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532xBctAm64c1ShLqIwe8Ig1M4QzQBKgMET/b+BoxY4F96wLsas6 FLZmyrI10+IWL27aYh9dbbhCFgEXPUfABhllBuAv7sdOCpdufg== X-Received: by 2002:aca:4c7:: with SMTP id 190mr578266oie.58.1602802820526; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 16:00:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Luiz Augusto von Dentz Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 16:00:09 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Entropy source based on the RSSI To: Alexandre Augusto Cc: Bluez mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org Ola Alexandre, Que coincid=C3=AAncia ver alguem da UTFPR por aqui, fiz meu mestrado ai em 2003, muito legal o seu trabalho. So por curiosidade, voce chegou a usar o BT_HCI_CMD_LE_RAND como fonte de entropia? No Zephyr (https://www.zephyrproject.org/) agente usa bastante porque o controlador pode usar o sinal de interfer=C3=AAncia direto da camada do radio, abaixo da interface HCI, e segundo o pessoal da Nordic tem uma qualidade bem maior do que por exemplo RSSI porque nao depende da quantidade de dispositivos em volta. On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 2:59 PM Alexandre Augusto wrote: > > Hello, > > based on the motivation that IoT devices do not have many entropy > sources available, and also on the fact that trusting in a single > source may be risky, I have researched some additional ways to collect > randomness for the device, using bluetooth technology for that > purpose. > > For those who are interested in: > > Github: https://github.com/AAGiron/Bluerandom > Presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiAKaKAmqCFo > > I also want to say thanks in advance to Emil Lenngren for his valuable > comments, here in this mailing list (back in 2019), and also to the > Bluez community. > > -- > Alexandre Augusto Giron --=20 Luiz Augusto von Dentz