From: "J. Bruce Fields" Subject: Re: Problems with large number of clients and reads Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:46:13 -0400 Message-ID: <20080611184613.GM15380@fieldses.org> References: <1212519001.24900.14.camel@hololw58> <20080606160922.GG30863@fieldses.org> <0122F800A3B64C449565A9E8C2977010155587@hoexmb9.conoco.net> <20080609185355.GF28584@fieldses.org> <0122F800A3B64C449565A9E8C297701002D75D9F@hoexmb9.conoco.net> <20080610171602.GG20184@fieldses.org> <0122F800A3B64C449565A9E8C297701002D75DA3@hoexmb9.conoco.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org To: "Weathers, Norman R." Return-path: Received: from mail.fieldses.org ([66.93.2.214]:35992 "EHLO fieldses.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750977AbYFKSqO (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:46:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: <0122F800A3B64C449565A9E8C297701002D75DA3-zIGg2qceuZx7uNL6xugVa6xOck334EZe@public.gmane.org> Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 05:12:31PM -0500, Weathers, Norman R. wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: J. Bruce Fields [mailto:bfields@fieldses.org] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:16 PM > > To: Weathers, Norman R. > > Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org > > Subject: Re: Problems with large number of clients and reads > > > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:30:18AM -0500, Weathers, Norman R. wrote: > > > Unfortunately, I cannot stop the clients (middle of long running > > > jobs). I might be able to test this soon. If I have the number of > > > threads high, yes I can reduce the number of threads and it > > appears to > > > lower some of the memory, but even with as little as three threads, > > > the memory usage climbs very high, just not as high as if there are > > > say 8 threads. When the memory usage climbs high, it can cause the > > > box to not respond over the network (ssh, rsh), and even be very > > > sluggish when I am connected over our serial console to the > > server(s). > > > This same scenario has been happening with kernels that I have tried > > > from 2.6.22.x on to the 2.6.25 series. The 2.6.25 series is > > > interesting in that I can push the same load from a box with the > > > 2.6.25 kernel and not have a load over .3 (with 3 threads), but with > > > the 2.6.22.x kernel, I have a load of over 3 when I hit the same > > > conditions. > > > > OK, I think what we want to do is turn on > > CONFIG_DEBUG_SLAB_LEAK. I've > > never used it before, but it looks like it will report which functions > > are allocating from each slab cache, which may be exactly what we need > > to know. So: > > > > 1. Install a kernel with both CONFIG_DEBUG_SLAB ("Debug slab > > memory allocations") and CONFIG_DEBUG_SLAB_LEAK ("Memory leak > > debugging") turned on. They're both under the "kernel hacking" > > section of the kernel config. (If you have a file > > /proc/slab_allocators, then you already have these turned on and > > you can skip this step.) > > > > 2. Do whatever you need to do to reproduce the problem. > > > > 3. Get a copy of /proc/slabinfo and /proc/slab_allocators. > > > > Then we can take a look at that and see if it sheds any light. > > > I have taken several snapshots of the /proc/slab_allocators and > /proc/slabinfo as requested, but since there is a lot of info in them, > and I didn't think anyone wanted to go cross-eyed reading the data in an > email, I have them up on a website: > > http://shashi-weathers.net/linux/cluster/NFS/ Excellent. > > The order of data collection is: > > slab_allocators_bad1.txt and corresponding slabinfo > slab_allocators_after_bad1.txt and corresponding slabinfo > slab_allocators_16_threads.txt and corresponding slabinfo > slab_allocators_16_threads_1.txt and corresponding slabinfo > slab_allocators_32_threads.txt and corresponding slabinfo > slab_allocators_really_bad.txt and corresponding slabinfo. > > > You will have to forgive my ignorance at this point, but I was looking > through the slabinfo and slab_allocators, and noticed that size-4096 > does not show up in slab_allocators... I hope that is by design. You > can see it growing into the gigabytes in the slabinfo files.... Argh. OK, I don't understand well enough how this works. Time to ask someone, I guess.... --b. > > > > > > > I think that debugging will hurt the server performance, so you won't > > want to keep it turned on all the time. > > > > > > > > Also, this is all with the SLAB cache option. SLUB crashes > > everytime > > > I use it under heavy load. > > > > Have you reported the SLUB bugs to lkml? > > No, I haven't yet. I didn't know for sure if I was doing something > wrong, or if SLUB was the problem there. Since the failures, I had gone > back to using SLAB anyway, so .... I probably should... > > > > > --b. > > > > > Norman Weathers