Return-Path: Received: from fieldses.org ([174.143.236.118]:45546 "EHLO fieldses.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753779Ab0BET2m (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:28:42 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:28:59 -0500 From: "J. Bruce Fields" To: Steve Dickson Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] nfsd: default to kernel default for minorversion 1 Message-ID: <20100205192859.GE24926@fieldses.org> References: <1264631166-21898-1-git-send-email-bfields@citi.umich.edu> <1264631166-21898-2-git-send-email-bfields@citi.umich.edu> <20100201195821.GB19418@fieldses.org> <4B6B480C.1050307@RedHat.com> <20100205161001.GB24926@fieldses.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <20100205161001.GB24926@fieldses.org> Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 11:10:02AM -0500, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 05:19:56PM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote: > > On 02/01/2010 02:58 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 05:26:06PM -0500, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > > >> The current kernel code should not be enabled by default, because it > > >> does not yet attempt to be a conform completely to the rfc; for example, > > >> some required pieces of protocol are missing. > > >> > > >> Therefore the kernel defaults to leaving minorversion1 off. When the > > >> code matures sufficiently, that default will change. > > >> > > >> That kernel default becomes meaningless if nfs-utils always explicitly > > >> turns 4.1 on or off. So, nfs-utils should by default do nothing. > > >> > > >> Provide a --enable-experimental-v41-support option to turn it on > > >> explicitly. The option is intentionally spelled out (and has no short > > >> equivalent), to help ensure that users know what they're getting into. > > Command options like this are so hard to get rid of.... We just can't introduce > > an option one release and then have it go away a few releases down the road. > > That's sure fire way to breaking existing configurations which something that is, > > has been and will continue to be unacceptable... > > OK, fair enough. It shouldn't be a problem to keep it indefinitely, > though. Actually, an even simpler option: instead of adding a new option, just modify the code so that the *absence* of -N4.1 isn't taken to mean "please turn on 4.1". People can always just do their own echo +4.1 >/proc/fs/nfsd/version if that's what they want. --b.