Return-Path: Received: from mail-out1.uio.no ([129.240.10.57]:37530 "EHLO mail-out1.uio.no" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751611Ab0HEAwz (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Aug 2010 20:52:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Write delegation From: Trond Myklebust To: Yudong Gao Cc: Andy Adamson , linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <97A00951-577C-4365-AA38-3C6E2D03B372@netapp.com> <1280956937.2865.13.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:52:44 -0400 Message-ID: <1280969564.2865.23.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 14:40 -0700, Yudong Gao wrote: > I see. But according to the spec, the write delegation is supposed to > break the close-to-open consistency so that the client can avoid > flushing dirty page to server when closing the file. Is this part > implemented? I can not find it in the source code... No. We didn't do that. The main reason for continuing to flush the writes on close is to avoid slow delegation recalls. > Another question is how the nfs file write interacts with fscache? I > was not able to find the code that update the page copy in fscache > when the page in memory is modified. AFAIK fscache is read-only at this point. I think David has plans to make it read/write, but I don't know whether he will ever do so for NFS. Trond > Thanks a lot! > > best, > > Yudong > > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Trond Myklebust > wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 14:11 -0700, Yudong Gao wrote: > >> Thanks for the reply, Andy! > >> > >> So the write delegation can only reduce the unnecessary open/close and > >> lock/locku. But if a client modify the same page for multiple times, > >> e.g. editing the file in a editor, is there any optimization to > >> prevent the client from sending the half-updated pages? Ideally only > >> the final update need to be put on the wire. > >> > > > > Yes. However that optimisation is not linked to whether or not we hold a > > write delegation. The NFS client assumes close-to-open cache > > consistency, and so will cache writes until either the VM tries to > > reclaim memory by writing out dirty page, or the application calls one > > of fcntl(F_UNLCK), fsync() or close(). > > > > Trond > > > >> Thanks! > >> > >> best, > >> > >> Yudong > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Andy Adamson wrote: > >> > > >> > On Aug 4, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Yudong Gao wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> I am not able to find the implementation of directory delegation, > >> >> either. Similarly, the callback functions CB_NOTIFY is not > >> >> implemented, either. I find that in preprocss_nfs41_op() in > >> >> callback_xdr.c, whenever a CB_NOTIFY is encountered, an > >> >> NFS4ERR_NOTSUPP is returned directly. > >> > > >> > CB_NOTIFY is not currently supported on the Linux NFS client. > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Am I missing something? Or they are just not supported in the current version? > >> >> > >> >> Thanks a lot! > >> >> > >> >> best, > >> >> > >> >> Yudong > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Yudong Gao wrote: > >> >>> Hi, > >> >>> > >> >>> I am looking at the delegation implementation in the source code of > >> >>> NFS 4.1 in kernel 2.6.32.15. I can find the code for read delegation, > >> >>> which is working and can serve the read requests locally. But I can > >> >>> never find the code about write delegation, which is supposed to cache > >> >>> the write update locally. I try to look at the functions including > >> >>> nfs_writepage(s), nfs_file_flush() but none of them checks or uses the > >> >>> write delegation. > >> >>> > >> >>> Is write delegation currently implemented in NFS 4.1? > >> > > >> > Write delegation is supported but I don't think write behavior changes - writes are still cached and flushed as without a write delegation. The write delegation does prevent open/close and lock/locku from being put on the wire. > >> > > >> > -->Andy > >> > > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks! > >> >>> > >> >>> best, > >> >>> > >> >>> Yudong > >> >>> > >> >> -- > >> >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in > >> >> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > >> >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > >> > > >> > > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in > >> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > > > > > > >