Return-Path: Received: from fieldses.org ([174.143.236.118]:40212 "EHLO fieldses.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751197Ab0HQTrI (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:47:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:45:04 -0400 From: "J. Bruce Fields" To: "Patrick J. LoPresti" Cc: Alan Cox , Andi Kleen , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel Subject: Re: Proposal: Use hi-res clock for file timestamps Message-ID: <20100817194504.GF26609@fieldses.org> References: <87aaolwar8.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> <20100817174134.GA23176@fieldses.org> <20100817182920.GD18161@basil.fritz.box> <20100817190447.GA28049@fieldses.org> <20100817203941.729830b7@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20100817205441.200ab9a4@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:43:10PM -0700, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > >> Is there any objection to the mount option I am proposing? > > > > I have none. I doubt I'd use it as it would be too expensive on system > > performance for some of my boxes, while having an incrementing value is > > cheap. > > > > I don't see the two as conflicting - in fact the bits you need to do the > > mount option are the bits you also need to do the counter version as > > well. One fixes ordering at no real cost, the other adds high res > > timestamps, both are useful. > > A mount option could also allow a choice of timestamp resolutions: > > Traditional (i.e., fast) > Alan Cox NFS hack (a tad slower but should fix NFS) > High-res time (slowest but most accurate) > > I will work on a patch this week (weekend at the latest). I kind of hate to have mount options that are required for nfs exports to work correctly; it soon makes things too complicated for users to realiably get right, so distributions end up setting them, and then we all end up taking the performance tradeoff anyway. But a mount-option-based version may at least be useful for further experiments. --b.