Return-Path: Received: from fieldses.org ([174.143.236.118]:52226 "EHLO fieldses.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756684Ab0LJTSC (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:18:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:17:58 -0500 From: "J. Bruce Fields" To: Thomas Haynes Cc: Spencer Shepler , "'Trond Myklebust'" , "'Spelic'" , linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: NFSv4 behaviour on unknown users Message-ID: <20101210191758.GD5014@fieldses.org> References: <1291156414.4393.2.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> <20101130223627.GC5054@fieldses.org> <20101201135740.0d3b5948@notabene.brown> <1291173002.7694.7.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> <20101201162912.GC6832@fieldses.org> <99BBEF51-7EB1-4BAA-9B12-F0F98A629C74@netapp.com> <1291331885.2915.1.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> <03e401cb9278$ad554ad0$07ffe070$@gmail.com> <20101208001548.GA30196@fieldses.org> <3FD238C0-0A97-4EEE-ACE6-A0547E2559AF@netapp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <3FD238C0-0A97-4EEE-ACE6-A0547E2559AF@netapp.com> Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:00:08AM -0800, Thomas Haynes wrote: > > On Dec 7, 2010, at 4:15 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > > > > > (I see AUTH_SYS as a different issue. It's unfortunately true that > > AUTH_SYS has effectively turned out to be required-to-implement even if > > it wasn't meant to be, so maybe the spec's out of line with reality > > there; but I haven't heard of that causing any practical > > problems--whereas "why does ls show all users as nobody after an upgrade > > to NFSv4" is a FAQ.) > > If everyone were to adopt this approach to solve the FAQ, then wouldn't we > want it to be specified to make sure that interoperability was maximized? Sorry for the confusion--that last paragraph was just about AUTH_SYS, not about user/group-naming. Sure, I'd be happy to propose changes to the user/group-naming (which is all in section 5.8 of 3530, I think, or is there some scattered elsewhere?) --b.