Return-Path: Received: from smtp109.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([98.136.44.54]:30124 "HELO smtp109.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751524Ab1EDRtT (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 May 2011 13:49:19 -0400 Message-ID: <4DC1900D.3010804@schaufler-ca.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 10:42:37 -0700 From: Casey Schaufler To: Roberto Sassu CC: Tyler Hicks , linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dhowells@redhat.com, jmorris@namei.org, zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com, safford@watson.ibm.com, kirkland@canonical.com, ecryptfs-devel@lists.launchpad.net, eparis@redhat.com, sds@tycho.nsa.gov, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, john.johansen@canonical.com, apparmor@lists.ubuntu.com, bfields@fieldses.org, neilb@suse.de, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Casey Schaufler Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/7] File descriptor labeling References: <201104291139.37489.roberto.sassu@polito.it> <201105021053.54031.roberto.sassu@polito.it> <4DC088A8.4000300@schaufler-ca.com> <201105041119.57493.roberto.sassu@polito.it> In-Reply-To: <201105041119.57493.roberto.sassu@polito.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 On 5/4/2011 2:19 AM, Roberto Sassu wrote: > On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 12:58:48 AM Casey Schaufler wrote: >> On 5/2/2011 1:53 AM, Roberto Sassu wrote: >> ... >>>> Right, but what I don't understand is why you can't use existing >>>> mechanisms to achieve this? NFS manages (mostly). >>> Please, can you explain better this thought? >> NFS provides a network "view" of an ext4 (or any type for that matter) >> filesystem. NFS does not support extended attributes, but there has been >> ongoing work on that. It seems that if NFS does not require the kind >> of changes you are requesting you shouldn't either. > I'm not familiar with NFS, so i cannot answer about this scenario. NFS provides the historical and prototypical example of a layered filesystem. If you are implementing a layered filesystem and have not researched NFS you are missing out on the bulk of the experience and wisdom on the subject. > I'm adding in CC also the NFS mantainers and the mailing list so > that they can express their point of view. The whole thread is > available at: > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/4/27/201 > > Roberto Sassu