Return-Path: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: from fieldses.org ([174.143.236.118]:36753 "EHLO fieldses.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751567Ab1K3ToN (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:44:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:44:10 -0500 To: Marc Eshel Cc: Trond Myklebust , Peng Tao , bhalevy@tonian.com, Boaz Harrosh , Garth Gibson , Fred Isaman , linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Matt Benjamin Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] nfs41: allow layoutget at pnfs_do_multiple_writes Message-ID: <20111130194410.GB32028@fieldses.org> References: <1322603848.11286.7.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <4ED55F78.205@panasas.com> <1322606842.11286.33.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <4ED563AC.5040501@panasas.com> <1322609431.11286.56.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <1322611689.11286.72.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <1322613425.11286.86.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: From: "J. Bruce Fields" Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 04:52:59PM -0800, Marc Eshel wrote: > Trond Myklebust wrote on 11/29/2011 04:37:05 > PM: > > > > Peng Tao, bhalevy, Boaz Harrosh, Garth Gibson, Fred Isaman, linux- > > nfs, Matt Benjamin > > > > On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 16:20 -0800, Marc Eshel wrote: > > > You ignored my main point, I was talking about the server side, my > point > > > was that there is nothing to build on on the serve side since the pNFS > > > > Linux server is not happening. > > > Marc. > > > > Sorry. I misunderstood your concern. As far as I know, the main problem > > there is also one of investment: nobody has stepped up to help Bruce > > write a pNFS server. > > > > I'm less worried about this now than I was earlier, because other open > > source efforts are gaining traction (see Ganesha - which is being > > sponsored by IBM, and projects such as Tigran's java based pNFS server). > > The other point is that we've developed client test-rigs that don't > > depend on the availability of a Linux server (newpynfs and the pynfs > > based proxy). > > You got it backward, Ganesha is getting traction precisely because the > Linux kernel server is not happening :) My understanding is the same as Trond's--the reason it's not happening is because nobody is making an effort to merge it. What am I missing? --b.