Return-Path: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: from fieldses.org ([174.143.236.118]:43265 "EHLO fieldses.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751082Ab1LALPF (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Dec 2011 06:15:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 06:14:57 -0500 From: "J. Bruce Fields" To: Benny Halevy Cc: Marc Eshel , Trond Myklebust , Peng Tao , Boaz Harrosh , Garth Gibson , Fred Isaman , linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Matt Benjamin Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] nfs41: allow layoutget at pnfs_do_multiple_writes Message-ID: <20111201111457.GA4506@fieldses.org> References: <1322606842.11286.33.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <4ED563AC.5040501@panasas.com> <1322609431.11286.56.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <1322611689.11286.72.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <1322613425.11286.86.camel@lade.trondhjem.org> <20111130194410.GB32028@fieldses.org> <4ED74D19.7060302@tonian.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <4ED74D19.7060302@tonian.com> Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 11:47:05AM +0200, Benny Halevy wrote: > On 2011-11-30 21:44, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 04:52:59PM -0800, Marc Eshel wrote: > >> Trond Myklebust wrote on 11/29/2011 04:37:05 > >> PM: > >>> > >>> Peng Tao, bhalevy, Boaz Harrosh, Garth Gibson, Fred Isaman, linux- > >>> nfs, Matt Benjamin > >>> > >>> On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 16:20 -0800, Marc Eshel wrote: > >>>> You ignored my main point, I was talking about the server side, my > >> point > >>>> was that there is nothing to build on on the serve side since the pNFS > >> > >>>> Linux server is not happening. > >>>> Marc. > >>> > >>> Sorry. I misunderstood your concern. As far as I know, the main problem > >>> there is also one of investment: nobody has stepped up to help Bruce > >>> write a pNFS server. > >>> > >>> I'm less worried about this now than I was earlier, because other open > >>> source efforts are gaining traction (see Ganesha - which is being > >>> sponsored by IBM, and projects such as Tigran's java based pNFS server). > >>> The other point is that we've developed client test-rigs that don't > >>> depend on the availability of a Linux server (newpynfs and the pynfs > >>> based proxy). > >> > >> You got it backward, Ganesha is getting traction precisely because the > >> Linux kernel server is not happening :) > > > > My understanding is the same as Trond's--the reason it's not happening > > is because nobody is making an effort to merge it. What am I missing? > > > > Tonian is working on this and we've allocated resources also to help > out on your nfs4.1 todo list. Great, thanks; let me know how I can help. --b.