Return-Path: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: from partagas.dragonet.es ([217.70.240.130]:36350 "EHLO partagas.dragonet.es" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754374Ab2BJXUe (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:20:34 -0500 Message-ID: <4F35A630.4000205@steve-ss.com> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:20:16 +0100 From: steve MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Bruce Fields" CC: Don Riden , "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: where can I ask user qns about nfs4? References: <4F2D9A0E.6010503@leicester.ac.uk> <4F2E4B50.5040701@steve-ss.com> <20120205141611.GA12826@umich.edu> <4F2EB471.9060508@leicester.ac.uk> <4F341FA6.9080101@steve-ss.com> <4F34D31A.6050604@steve-ss.com> <20120210184012.GA5781@fieldses.org> <4F356C4C.2010306@steve-ss.com> <20120210191448.GD5781@fieldses.org> In-Reply-To: <20120210191448.GD5781@fieldses.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 02/10/2012 08:14 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 08:13:16PM +0100, steve wrote: >> On 02/10/2012 07:40 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 09:19:38AM +0100, steve wrote: >>>>>> I'm happy to provide more details of the domain joining process >>>>>> offlist or summarise in another >>>>>> email if there is interest. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm surprised by the lack of documentation available on using >>>>>> Kerberised NFS with AD. I would have thought that it would be a >>>>>> fairly common configuration? >>>> Hi >>>> This stuff really does need documenting. I've put together a rough >>>> guide of most of the common misunderstandings here: >>>> http://linuxcostablanca.blogspot.com/2012/02/nfsv4-myths-and-legends.html >>> Could you get some of this material into the linux-nfs wiki? >>> >>> The NFS w/ AD stuff, for example, would probably be worth a page of its >>> own and a top-level link under "Documentation" (and the link to Mike >>> Eisler's blog entry could be moved to the page, if it still looks like >>> it's current). >>> >>> --b. >> Unfortunately, I am unable to write technical English in the style >> that is required by the wiki. > Just say it however it makes sense to you, ping me, and I can do any > wordsmithing if it seems necessary. > > --b. > >> I am however happy for the link to be >> placed there. As there is no user nfs mailing list I'm also happy >> for folk to sign up to the article and use _it_ as a mailing list. OK. I've requested a login. Linux has never been too good with documentation. At nfs level, unless you are capable of reading the code, you are stuck with misinformation. What I feel is that admins are stuck in the middle. It's a dilemma. You don't want to want to have to burden the devs with what to them is trivia. As admin, you have your own trivia: 'I saved it in My Documents but now only Sharon can open it'. You also need to be able to move forward without guessing: 'What's the official syntax for /etc/exports with krb5'. Your users get their answers. From you. Where are we expected to get our answers from! Cheers, Steve