Return-Path: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: from mail-ia0-f174.google.com ([209.85.210.174]:64212 "EHLO mail-ia0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752776Ab2K2XOh (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:14:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20121129211624.GS4939@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <4FA345DA4F4AE44899BD2B03EEEC2FA90B329CFD@SACEXCMBX04-PRD.hq.netapp.com> <1354202525.4064.1.camel@pico.ipa.ssimo.org> <4FA345DA4F4AE44899BD2B03EEEC2FA90B32AEB7@SACEXCMBX04-PRD.hq.netapp.com> <20121129202037.GQ4939@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20121129211624.GS4939@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:14:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Possible to make nfs aware of a inotify watch has been set. From: Stef Bon To: Al Viro Cc: "Myklebust, Trond" , simo , "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" , linux-cifs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: 2012/11/29 Al Viro : > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 09:31:05PM +0100, Stef Bon wrote: >> 2012/11/29 Al Viro : >> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 05:39:27PM +0100, Stef Bon wrote: >> > >> With Ubuntu people started Unity, also without a killer app, but just >> with an opinion, an impression, an idea. And anyone can dislike or >> like it, it's a succes as far as I can see. What the hell is wrong >> with suggesting things based upon an idea/impression? > > IOW, it was a true positive for "([Uu]ser experience)|UX" as BS predictor. > Nice to know... > > Look, you'd been asked to give good reasons for doing some thing; replying with > "it's My Opinion(tm), piss off if that's not enough reason for you" would at > least have been honest. References to UX, as your last reply has confirmed, > had been basically an obfuscated equivalent of that. No no, I do not say "piss off". If that is what my message looked like, I'm sorry for that. But I do not have any killer app or something. I cannot convince you otherwise that saying it's my opinion. I do not have numbers or something like that proving I have a point. I wish I have. But I do understand you do not agree with me, and see things different. > > Sorry for being harsh, but I've had it with the GNOME crowd and their ilk > using just such references to handwave away any questions. > > There's nothing wrong with having opinions/impressions/etc. Everyone got > their own, etc. But "I believe so, period" is not a sufficient answer to > "what makes that a good idea?" and obfuscating it up is even worse. So, no I do not say "I believe so, period" . But I cannot convince you ...and we have different opinions here.. I don't know any method here of "proving having a point". Stef