Return-Path: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: from mail-qa0-f43.google.com ([209.85.216.43]:52042 "EHLO mail-qa0-f43.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752121Ab3I1Ftr convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Sep 2013 01:49:47 -0400 Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id k15so1058909qaq.16 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 22:49:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20130927205013.GZ30372@lenny.home.zabbo.net> References: <20130925183828.GA30372@lenny.home.zabbo.net> <20130925190620.GB30372@lenny.home.zabbo.net> <20130925195526.GA18971@fieldses.org> <20130925210742.GG30372@lenny.home.zabbo.net> <20130926185508.GO30372@lenny.home.zabbo.net> <5244A68F.906@redhat.com> <20130927200550.GA22640@fieldses.org> <20130927205013.GZ30372@lenny.home.zabbo.net> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 07:49:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC] extending splice for copy offloading From: Miklos Szeredi To: Zach Brown Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" , Ric Wheeler , Anna Schumaker , Kernel Mailing List , Linux-Fsdevel , "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" , Trond Myklebust , Bryan Schumaker , "Martin K. Petersen" , Jens Axboe , Mark Fasheh , Joel Becker , Eric Wong Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Zach Brown wrote: >> Also, I don't get the first option above at all. The argument is that >> it's safer to have more copies? How much safety does another copy on >> the same disk really give you? Do systems that do dedup provide >> interfaces to turn it off per-file? I don't see the safety argument very compelling either. There are real semantic differences, however: ENOSPC on a write to a (apparentlĂ­y) already allocated block. That could be a bit unexpected. Do we need a fallocate extension to deal with shared blocks? Thanks, Miklos