Return-Path: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: from mxout1.mail.janestreet.com ([38.105.200.112]:41644 "EHLO mxout1.mail.janestreet.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754611AbbCBPUR convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Mar 2015 10:20:17 -0500 Received: from tot-qpr-mailcore2.delacy.com ([172.27.56.106] helo=tot-qpr-mailcore2) by mxout1.mail.janestreet.com with smtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1YSS8m-0006es-PU for linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 10:20:16 -0500 Received: from mail-yk0-f169.google.com ([209.85.160.169]) by mxgoog1.mail.janestreet.com with esmtps (UNKNOWN:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1YSS8m-00060w-Kc for linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 10:20:16 -0500 Received: by ykbq200 with SMTP id q200so13648919ykb.6 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 07:20:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0836BFA3-1F2D-4CD0-AB25-3DBA916D941C@oracle.com> References: <20150227224029.GA8750@fieldses.org> <0836BFA3-1F2D-4CD0-AB25-3DBA916D941C@oracle.com> From: Chris Perl Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 10:19:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: File Read Returns Non-existent Null Bytes To: Chuck Lever Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" , Trond Myklebust , Linux NFS Mailing List , Chris Perl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: > I’m in favor of staying more hand-wavy. Otherwise you will end up > making promises you don’t intend to keep ;-) FWIW, I'm in favor of at least some specifics. Something stating that the results of reading from a file while another client holds it open for write are undefined (point 3 of what was already proposed).