Return-Path: Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:34118 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751161AbdJRPU2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:20:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 17:20:26 +0200 From: Stefan Hajnoczi To: Chuck Lever Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List Subject: Re: Draft RFC for ONC RPC over AF_VSOCK Message-ID: <20171018152026.GB31848@stefanha-x1.localdomain> References: <20171005200835.GA31525@stefanha-x1.localdomain> <2BCB0D75-EF18-4463-BEB4-D09005DAE86B@oracle.com> <20171012121706.GC5957@stefanha-x1.localdomain> <00E6726C-D32F-4C34-B809-F3F3CCCF22D5@oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <00E6726C-D32F-4C34-B809-F3F3CCCF22D5@oracle.com> Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:13:18AM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote: > > > On Oct 12, 2017, at 8:17 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 04:53:07PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote: > >>> On Oct 5, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > > > >> An unchanging public reference to a specification of VSOCK is > >> important to cite. If you can't find one, you'll have to explain > >> why in the document. If the VSOCK specification is not an IETF > >> document, it will have to be an Informative reference, and this > >> I-D will also have to be Informative. > > > > There is no formal specification. VMware has published developer > > documentation that explains the use of VSOCK in the context of VMware > > products. > > If there is nothing else, this is the most appropriate reference > to cite. It provides a description of the technology made by the > agent who invented and ultimately controls it (we believe: it > may be that someone else did, and VMware is just taking credit; > I think we need to know that too). > > You should contact VMware to see if they have anything more, and > to ask if they already have NFS on VSOCK. Let them know you are > submitting standards in this area. > > > I will submit a vsock(7) man page to the Linux man-pages project > > (similar to ip(7), tcp(7), etc). It will document the semantics of the > > AF_VSOCK address family. Maybe this can serve as a reference? > > The IESG will ultimately decide, but IMO citing a man page that > you wrote would not be adequate unless you yourself invented the > VSOCK technology. Okay. I'll check with Jorgen Hansen (VMware), Linux net/vmw_vsock/ maintainer, and see what the best reference is. Stefan