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Subject: Re: NFS: 82ms wakeup latency 4.14-rc4
From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
        Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 18:17:36 +0100
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On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 18:00 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 11:35 -0500, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > 
> > Like I say, I don't really understand the issues here, so it's more a
> > question than an objection....  (I don't know any reason a
> > cond_resched() would be bad there.)
> 
> Think of it this way: what all can be queued up behind that kworker
> that is hogging CPU for huge swaths of time? ?It's not only userspace
> that suffers.

Bah, I'm gonna sound like a damn Baptist preacher, but I gotta say,
latency matters just as much to an enterprise NOPREEMPT kernel and its
users as it does to a desktop kernel and its users. ?For max
throughput, you don't want to do work in _tiny_ quantum, because you
then lose throughput due to massive cache trashing and scheduling
overhead, but latency still does matter, and not just a little.

	-Mike