Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED, USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C92C43441 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8ED206BB for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="PuT6g85F" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org CB8ED206BB Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=kernel.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1730372AbeKTQFN (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:05:13 -0500 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:54790 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726883AbeKTQFN (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:05:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [77.138.135.184]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2C7220685; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:37:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1542692277; bh=7C7qcT0hTA6qABd9XanvxS2yXnrOeweOhvMHa8uvNa0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=PuT6g85FlTr46xGEJbeed1bVZVVcPtevpsqB4gf0RS5qGcycebMpiKUORwd8IK/Cd IyyQ7NgW8bN6ikWia9RNjcm6c5M7+YawdCDJNOMdDrSea0wEsnumj90sZoq3GJEa/N ivwkMhtFhSJd+p9CswsekHURUWQ4Eba3p54T7OlI= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 07:37:52 +0200 From: Leon Romanovsky To: Bart Van Assche Cc: Chuck Lever , linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, oulijun@huawei.com, zhongjiang@huawei.com, venkata.s.dhanalakota@intel.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/4] xprtrdma: Remove support for FMR memory registration Message-ID: <20181120053752.GF25178@mtr-leonro.mtl.com> References: <20181119153707.10832.42881.stgit@manet.1015granger.net> <20181119154551.10832.5498.stgit@manet.1015granger.net> <1542644197.185366.50.camel@acm.org> <20181119190913.GC21715@mtr-leonro.mtl.com> <1542660730.185366.62.camel@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TeJTyD9hb8KJN2Jy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1542660730.185366.62.camel@acm.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org --TeJTyD9hb8KJN2Jy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 12:52:10PM -0800, Bart Van Assche wrote: > On Mon, 2018-11-19 at 21:09 +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote: > > The more accurate question is "how many customers ... use latest, > > upstream kernel?" > > Hi Leon, > > If this would not be clear: I am in favor of removing kernel drivers that > are no longer in use. Recently I supported a proposal to remove the SCSI > OSD driver from the kernel tree because that driver > probably has not been > used by anyone in the past five years. > > But I think that kernel drivers that are still in use should stay in the > kernel tree, no matter which version is in use. Since the Linux kernel ABI > is backwards compatible, with every Linux distro it is possible to replace > the Linux kernel that was provided by the Linux distributor with a more > recent upstream kernel. I think it would be a very unpleasant surprise for > people who use one of the RDMA adapters that only support FMR if they would > test a more recent kernel and if they would notice that its driver has been > removed. Bart, I know the theory behind promises to work on old HW, but the reality that no one really tests latest kernels on those devices. This article complains about it too: https://lwn.net/Articles/769468/ Thanks > > Bart. --TeJTyD9hb8KJN2Jy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJb852wAAoJEORje4g2clinUpEP/RFjfFMoVbgdszTPT9PC9mSk 7ZpHyeO9vVUD5Oj69io/hV7YFZI4NBmpOVBqXPflguPqyLAg2cOG9rMerSzZdsqU sJaHbs8GV6kEYJKcLkYyqJIacDzgXb3U9MA+Vucqn5GhrVfkuWcXR6s0Pe4Qnu6h N5VJTWURe1UARIBVFlKI0B04IQG2zWFABNtUpFX5g4pwRP3KVptKeXbCt307e3F+ tBCPeCIhr6WrjJRCwKot5sYCrjkAbMEWaZDcZqDbPe2ND6Wzd4h3OVzf+34gllu7 kCy+hKvlz9gvKwYydu69Fd/9k8ftl3IjgAcgF/pItK1vKl1Hpt7wuO8uSB67ynFH +xlgabdhcZnF72HJ4nnFCs0h+Jz1RekdLzhl9+N0HwTazZRTwuRlIkP8XHsO7yIA ENloEp0Atu1ZToFT+jTda0WagRixjvuaFTtAt+SrwGY2ZUKDfc3eILHewOr5NvL7 +iO4YcPJBkIB3FW2ERSGXQA+f3BKzY4lJdEtKYcjM5Rj9Wx2I6aOclCpvxk+LNOH aVBuVf55fbutgcFj7XO3V9VmGc7MD9V4WpcKzhwBa8VWcjBvSWczYB6ST3tcstIS w8Q2Ui1CDjmm2e9HXTJWd4NbooOMoyWeLzjGxrIKiguRzzOe+lN7yn56pyHXJbmz lpApFMw0gGzzfeoXwL8e =szkf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TeJTyD9hb8KJN2Jy--