Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E279C4360F for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEEE21738 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728290AbfBSXGU (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Feb 2019 18:06:20 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:58760 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726402AbfBSXGU (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Feb 2019 18:06:20 -0500 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4462856FC; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from warthog.procyon.org.uk (ovpn-121-129.rdu2.redhat.com [10.10.121.129]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93D3600C0; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Red Hat UK Ltd. Registered Address: Red Hat UK Ltd, Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SI4 1TE, United Kingdom. Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 3798903 From: David Howells In-Reply-To: <1550432358.2809.21.camel@HansenPartnership.com> References: <1550432358.2809.21.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <155024683432.21651.14153938339749694146.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <155024685321.21651.1504201877881622756.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> To: James Bottomley Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com, sfrench@samba.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, rgb@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/27] containers: Implement containers as kernel objects MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <19561.1550617574.1@warthog.procyon.org.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:06:14 +0000 Message-ID: <19562.1550617574@warthog.procyon.org.uk> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.30]); Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org James Bottomley wrote: > I thought we got agreement years ago that containers don't exist in > Linux as a single entity: they're currently a collection of cgroups and > namespaces some of which may and some of which may not be local to the > entity the orchestration system thinks of as a "container". I wasn't party to that agreement and don't feel particularly bound by it. David