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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id p9si542597eja.144.2020.10.28.16.15.05; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 16:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@oracle.com header.s=corp-2020-01-29 header.b=NDSVfD+Y; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=oracle.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2390008AbgJ1XOY (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 28 Oct 2020 19:14:24 -0400 Received: from aserp2130.oracle.com ([141.146.126.79]:52246 "EHLO aserp2130.oracle.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2390211AbgJ1XNE (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Oct 2020 19:13:04 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 09SD5EvT038593; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:10:47 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=content-type : mime-version : subject : from : in-reply-to : date : cc : content-transfer-encoding : message-id : references : to; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=84rMQMVIKIwbl5Ysxwce04riRMGp2/LSnCibTJwyYDA=; b=NDSVfD+YARnLMWSzHgRIrv+3DN5JZ4Dt983zLdmkGyrIJt1Htu/C31IDhQxS1wDbaiLf gXccEtORj9k1T4aPD4UQmTci6jGDIqXcTbePcaXoTqk6tnEgH98Ug5KPy6EP4gxiWc8k akMhApPuIPEp3S3Q/aFpB2RbLCviGcI9MLOKchpyuoB9uX7F2286jkswckh0aFOpBh8V wHJYdjMq9Tvjo3zw86TOAqoHF4NwarQg+9w3Xj7rmLxsNcl59Jpi9pLg0ETEUaC9Ys08 eFGHWuCLLtcfoZi8zMCQDpS1+fNZlWooiTrqriaW9LRLMcoXi4JVEYuViKhSpzZAjihr XQ== Received: from userp3020.oracle.com (userp3020.oracle.com [156.151.31.79]) by aserp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34c9sayexh-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:10:46 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (userp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 09SDALZQ179926; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:10:46 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34cx1ry9gj-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:10:46 +0000 Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 09SDAjG6003717; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:10:45 GMT Received: from anon-dhcp-152.1015granger.net (/68.61.232.219) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 06:10:45 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/20] NFSD support for multiple RPC/RDMA chunks From: Chuck Lever In-Reply-To: <20201028071601.GA114054@unreal> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 09:10:42 -0400 Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List , linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <386B59D5-BBAB-464A-A37F-13290CBE51E6@oracle.com> References: <160373843299.1886.12604782813896379719.stgit@klimt.1015granger.net> <20201027060823.GF4821@unreal> <20201028071601.GA114054@unreal> To: Leon Romanovsky X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9787 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=999 mlxscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2010280089 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9787 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 malwarescore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 bulkscore=0 priorityscore=1501 spamscore=0 phishscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2010280088 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org > On Oct 28, 2020, at 3:16 AM, Leon Romanovsky wrote: >=20 > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 09:24:54AM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote: >> Hi Leon- >>=20 >>> On Oct 27, 2020, at 2:08 AM, Leon Romanovsky = wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 02:53:53PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote: >>>> This series implements support for multiple RPC/RDMA chunks per RPC >>>> transaction. This is one of the few remaining generalities that the >>>> Linux NFS/RDMA server implementation lacks. >>>>=20 >>>> There is currently one known NFS/RDMA client implementation that = can >>>> send multiple chunks per RPC, and that is Solaris. Multiple chunks >>>> are rare enough that the Linux NFS/RDMA implementation has been >>>> successful without this support for many years. >>>=20 >>> So why do we need it? Solaris is dead, and like you wrote Linux = systems >>> work without this feature just fine, what are the benefits? Who will = use it? >>=20 >> The Linux NFS implementation is living. We can add the ability >> to provision multiple chunks per RPC to the Linux NFS client at >> any time. >>=20 >> Likewise any actively developed NFS/RDMA implementation can add >> this feature. The RPC/RDMA version 1 protocol does not have the >> ability to communicate the maximum number of chunks the server >> will accept per RPC. >>=20 >> Other server implementations do support multiple chunks per RPC. >> The Linux NFS/RDMA server implementation has always been incomplete >> in this regard. >>=20 >> And the Linux NFS server implementation (the non-transport specific >> part) already supports multiple data payloads per NFSv4 COMPOUND. >=20 > Thanks, I just got different feeling then I read the cover letter. > You presented it like no one needs this feature. Understood. I'll incorporate a summary of the content of this thread in the cover letter for the next version of the series. -- Chuck Lever