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Date:   Tue, 10 Nov 2020 17:21:55 -0500
From:   "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To:     Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@umich.edu>
Cc:     Dai Ngo <dai.ngo@oracle.com>, linux-nfs <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/1] NFSv4.2: Fix NFS4ERR_STALE error when doing inter
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 05:08:59PM -0500, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 4:52 PM J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 04:07:41PM -0500, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 3:14 PM J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 10:46:12PM -0800, Dai Ngo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/9/20 2:26 PM, Dai Ngo wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On 11/9/20 12:42 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > > > > >>On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 11:34:08AM -0800, Dai Ngo wrote:
> > > > > >>>On 11/9/20 10:30 AM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > > > > >>>>On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 11:34:35AM -0700, Dai Ngo wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>On 10/20/20 10:01 AM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 11:42:49PM -0400, Dai Ngo wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>NFS_FS=y as dependency of CONFIG_NFSD_V4_2_INTER_SSC still have
> > > > > >>>>>>>build errors and some configs with NFSD=m to get NFS4ERR_STALE
> > > > > >>>>>>>error when doing inter server copy.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>Added ops table in nfs_common for knfsd to access NFS
> > > > > >>>>>>>client modules.
> > > > > >>>>>>OK, looks reasonable to me, applying.  Does this resolve all the
> > > > > >>>>>>problems you've seen, or is there any bad case left?
> > > > > >>>>>Thanks Bruce.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>With this patch, I no longer see the NFS4ERR_STALE in any config.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>The problem with NFS4ERR_STALE was because of a bug in
> > > > > >>>>>nfs42_ssc_open.
> > > > > >>>>>When CONFIG_NFSD_V4_2_INTER_SSC is not defined, nfs42_ssc_open
> > > > > >>>>>returns NULL which is incorrect allowing the operation to continue
> > > > > >>>>>until nfsd4_putfh which does not have the code to handle
> > > > > >>>>>nfserr_stale.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>With this patch, when CONFIG_NFSD_V4_2_INTER_SSC is not defined the
> > > > > >>>>>new nfs42_ssc_open returns ERR_PTR(-EIO) which causes the NFS client
> > > > > >>>>>to switch over to the split copying (read src and write to dst).
> > > > > >>>>That sounds reasonable, but I don't see any of the patches you've sent
> > > > > >>>>changing that error return.  Did I overlook something, or did you mean
> > > > > >>>>to append a patch to this message?
> > > > > >>>Since with the patch, I did not run into the condition where
> > > > > >>>NFS4ERR_STALE
> > > > > >>>is returned so I did not fix this return error code. Do you want me to
> > > > > >>>submit another patch to change the returned error code from
> > > > > >>>NFS4ERR_STALE
> > > > > >>>to NFS4ERR_NOTSUPP if it ever runs into that condition?
> > > > > >>That would be great, thanks.  (I mean, it is still possible to hit that
> > > > > >>case, right?  You just didn't test with !CONFIG_NFSD_V4_2_INTER_SSC ?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >will do. I did tested with (!CONFIG_NFSD_V4_2_INTER_SSC) but did not hit
> > > > > >this case.
> > > > >
> > > > > I need to qualify this, the copy_file_range syscall did not return
> > > > > ESTALE in the test.
> > > > >
> > > > > >Because with this patch, when CONFIG_NFSD_V4_2_INTER_SSC is not
> > > > > >defined the new nfs42_ssc_open returns ERR_PTR(-EIO), instead of NULL in
> > > > > >the old code, which causes the NFS client to switch over to the split
> > > > > >copying (read src and write to dst).
> > > > >
> > > > > This is not the reason why the client switches to generic_copy_file_range.
> > > > >
> > > > > >Returning NULL in the old nfs42_ssc_open is not correct, it allows
> > > > > >the copy
> > > > > >operation to proceed and hits the NFS4ERR_STALE case in the COPY
> > > > > >operation.
> > > > >
> > > > > I retested with (!CONFIG_NFSD_V4_2_INTER_SSC) and saw NFS4ERR_STALE
> > > > > returned for the PUTFH of the SRC in the COPY compound. However on the
> > > > > client nfs42_proc_copy (with commit 7e350197a1c10) replaced the ESTALE
> > > > > with EOPNOTSUPP causing nfs4_copy_file_range to use generic_copy_file_range
> > > > > to do the copy.
> > > > >
> > > > > The ESTALE error is only returned by copy_file_range if the client
> > > > > does not have commit 7e350197a1c10. So I think there is no need to
> > > > > make any change on the source server for the NFS4ERR_STALE error.
> > > >
> > > > I don't believe NFS4ERR_STALE is the correct error for the server to
> > > > return.  It's nice that the client is able to do the right thing despite
> > > > the server returning the wrong error, but we should still try to get
> > > > this right on the server.
> > >
> > > Hi Bruce,
> > >
> > > ERR_STALE is the appropriate error to be returned by the server that
> > > gets a COPY compound when it doesn't support COPY. Since server can't
> > > understand the filehandle so it can't process it so we can't get to
> > > processing COPY opcode where the server could have returned
> > > EOPNOTSUPP.
> >
> > The case we're discussing is the case where we support COPY but not
> > server-to-server copy.
> 
> My point is still the same, that's an appropriate error for when
> server-to-server copy is not supported.

Uh, OK, if it backs up and returns it to the PUTFH, I guess?

Was it really the intention of nfsd4_do_async_copy() that it return
STALE in the case NFS42_ssc_open() returns NULL?  That's pretty
confusing.

--b.

> 
> > --b.
> >
> > > Thus a client side patch is needed and the server is doing
> > > everything it can in the situation.
> > >
> > > I'm confused about the title of this patch. I thought what it does is
> > > removes NFSD dependency on the NFS and instead loads the needed
> > > function dynamically.
> > >
> > > Honestly, I don't understand why that allows removal of the NFS_FS
> > > from the dependencies I don't understand. nfs4_ssc_open calls nfs
> > > client functions that are built when NFS_FS is compiled but I'm
> > > assuming will not be otherwise.