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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] SUNRPC: Don't truncate tail in xdr_inline_pages()
From:   Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
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Date:   Mon, 23 Nov 2020 10:47:13 -0500
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To:     Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>
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> On Nov 23, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Trond Myklebust =
<trondmy@hammerspace.com> wrote:
>=20
> On Mon, 2020-11-23 at 09:52 -0500, Chuck Lever wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Nov 22, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Trond Myklebust <
>>> trondmy@hammerspace.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 20:24 -0500, Chuck Lever wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Nov 22, 2020, at 3:52 PM, trondmy@kernel.org wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>
>>>>>=20
>>>>> True that if the length of the pages[] array is not 4-byte
>>>>> aligned,
>>>>> then
>>>>> we will need to store the padding in the tail, but there is no
>>>>> need
>>>>> to
>>>>> truncate the total buffer length here.
>>>>=20
>>>> This description confuses me. The existing code reduces the
>>>> length of
>>>> the tail, not the "total buffer length." And what the removed
>>>> logic
>>>> is
>>>> doing is taking out the length of the XDR pad for the pages array
>>>> when
>>>> it is not expected to be used.
>>>=20
>>> Why are we bothering to do that? There is nothing problematic with
>>> just
>>> ignoring this test and leaving the tail length as it is, nor is
>>> there
>>> anything to be gained by applying it.
>>=20
>> You are correct that leaving the buffer a little long is not going
>> to harm normal operation. After all, we lived with a wildly over-
>> estimated slack length for years.
>>=20
>> The purpose of this code path is to prepare the receive buffer with
>> the memory resources and expected length of the Reply. The series
>> of patches that introduced this particular change was all about
>> ensuring that the estimated length of the reply message was exact.
>>=20
>> If the reply message size is overestimated, that moves the end-of-
>> message sentinel that is later set by xdr_init_decode(). We then
>> miss subtle problems like our fixed size estimates are incorrect
>> or a man-in-the-middle is extending the RPC message or the server
>> is malfunctioning.
>>=20
>> <scratches chin>
>>=20
>> After moving the ->pages pad into ->pages, I'm wondering if you
>> should revert 02ef04e432ba ("NFS: Account for XDR pad of buf->pages")
>> --
>> the maxsz macros don't need to account for the XDR pad of ->pages
>> any more. Then the below hunk makes sense. The patch description
>> still doesn't, though ;-)
>>=20
>=20
> I don't think it needs to be reverted. I think you are right to =
include
> the padding in the buffer size that we use to set the value of task-
>> tk_rqstp->rq_rcvsize.
>=20
> That said, it seems wrong to include that padding as part of the
> 'hdrsize' argument in rpc_prepare_reply_pages(). That just causes
> confusion, because the padding is not part of the header in front of
> the array of pages. It is part of the tail data after the array of
> pages. So I think a cleanup there may be warranted.

Agreed, dealing with the tail size is confusing.


> The other thing that I'm considering is that we may want to optimise =
to
> avoid setting up an RDMA SEND just for the padding if that is truly =
the
> last word in the RPC call (it matters less if there is other data that
> requires us to set up such a SEND anyway). Not sure how to do that in =
a
> clean manner, though. Perhaps we'd have to pass in the padding size as
> a separate argument to xdr_inline_pages() (and also to
> rpc_prepare_reply_pages())?

In the current version of RPC/RDMA, there's always exactly one RDMA
Send per RPC message.

The Linux client implementation is also careful to exclude XDR padding
in both Read and Write chunks because the protocol makes the inclusion
of padding on the wire optional.

The only issue I see is that the upper layer needs to identify to the
transport the exact size of the data item that is being transferred
in a chunk so that the padding can be properly excluded. Currently
rpcrdma makes some assumptions about how the data items are laid out
in the xdr_buf when XDRBUF_READ/WRITE is set.


>> And then you should confirm that we are still getting the receive
>> buffer size estimate right for krb5i and krb5p.
>>=20
>>=20
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust
>>>>> <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> net/sunrpc/xdr.c | 3 ---
>>>>> 1 file changed, 3 deletions(-)
>>>>>=20
>>>>> diff --git a/net/sunrpc/xdr.c b/net/sunrpc/xdr.c
>>>>> index 3ce0a5daa9eb..5a450055469f 100644
>>>>> --- a/net/sunrpc/xdr.c
>>>>> +++ b/net/sunrpc/xdr.c
>>>>> @@ -193,9 +193,6 @@ xdr_inline_pages(struct xdr_buf *xdr,
>>>>> unsigned
>>>>> int offset,
>>>>>=20
>>>>>         tail->iov_base =3D buf + offset;
>>>>>         tail->iov_len =3D buflen - offset;
>>>>> -       if ((xdr->page_len & 3) =3D=3D 0)
>>>>> -               tail->iov_len -=3D sizeof(__be32);
>>>>> -
>>>>>         xdr->buflen +=3D len;
>>>>> }
>>>>> EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(xdr_inline_pages);
>>>>> --=20
>>>>> 2.28.0
>>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Trond Myklebust
> Linux NFS client maintainer, Hammerspace
> trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com

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Chuck Lever