Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:8c0a:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id go10csp1138177pxb; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 08:03:31 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzq+iNYoqzAOD4z4c6EgcIg7jchIjOFBNt1WxJY30lkP5+0dNHNxJPZoivgsVa5bMY2z4RL X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:4312:: with SMTP id m18mr74613edc.99.1611331411633; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 08:03:31 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1611331411; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=WPckZM3/EpHFS4TM9fFNPjaI7lTssB9S3Xusk+i8NbCvf53DHrbQP1uFvc/4CyOcmd GuT79+KvasUNZoFLhudn7o2tXqIHAipVM9z0we4IB40nII8hIxF1ZwcPvYiLV9vr9ldE /RzFXJmvuLToL48IVqEW+wESIPW/vuq1qryn/ahaGw7Vsp/OWKRHkv2mSTqMiif3diFF Etd+rel/qqLXrBTLUHD546vHO3N6ed+eiEBJKuH2Jtk8Nb5E6Oz0WTZVYxBovaX5ADV7 03idx7eiV3W8DrEk9RwoxEbBmATlP4QrxygubyyevQlzppY+pH44HlIJmJX5+HHpXqP9 1Fmg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date :dkim-signature:dkim-filter; bh=C1uyBn2BQyVBzkzoIFDiDLUaJ4GVYrCTmuJOgOCNLm0=; b=LaOLJk9Xaw20HJwcIV7zbhDqC+8i0q84MNJX9s9vZFf5FaWyCop07FTVd8n4f48va0 cRUVPZkAwLNrh/cejxtXe5NEt4Gc6fZl2sXZK4kPHwGyBAaN7E5wnaSU23U4eqy8piMN Smp/Z/J+ATz/U6kTkDPwQ/DkGZQ9kgFX10IzDd1TvlJK2BFc7pOZU4Fv1IjrXL/Viisg ZnyWBrknwNGNI5iumPgMbtBI9AH7VWW6sTor76LvHfloNzX5s78tL3GLrzmnyPo40uIv biv8QxqRvFHVlDxeI8QsCAlEFwcxnfH/aX20fpx2ki445iNcvO8oid9worxKwOiCyEdj utOw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@fieldses.org header.s=default header.b=wS+CszPv; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j23si303465ejd.156.2021.01.22.08.02.57; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 08:03:31 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@fieldses.org header.s=default header.b=wS+CszPv; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729399AbhAVQCV (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 22 Jan 2021 11:02:21 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:43828 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729305AbhAVQCR (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Jan 2021 11:02:17 -0500 Received: from fieldses.org (fieldses.org [IPv6:2600:3c00:e000:2f7::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0248FC0613D6; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 08:01:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by fieldses.org (Postfix, from userid 2815) id 465896EA0; Fri, 22 Jan 2021 11:01:29 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 fieldses.org 465896EA0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fieldses.org; s=default; t=1611331289; bh=C1uyBn2BQyVBzkzoIFDiDLUaJ4GVYrCTmuJOgOCNLm0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=wS+CszPvgU+UvUOL7glyffz488y1gAW2j+6KJGj+4oMkNlv7gRF31pfQZjlqnHUT0 1yUos2dQdiC5ry8dTqU/3rvAsvNqyzNB3vhDLNVSC8R0w+7zf0DydKatw+L5rjSrFG VKX7er2E95K03LAilNk+NFD2lxGQVieg6S9d4xhI= Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 11:01:29 -0500 From: "J. Bruce Fields" To: David Howells Cc: Trond Myklebust , Anna Schumaker , Steve French , Dominique Martinet , Takashi Iwai , Matthew Wilcox , linux-afs@lists.infradead.org, Jeff Layton , David Wysochanski , Alexander Viro , linux-cachefs@redhat.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, v9fs-developer@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/25] Network fs helper library & fscache kiocb API Message-ID: <20210122160129.GB18583@fieldses.org> References: <20210121190937.GE20964@fieldses.org> <20210121174306.GB20964@fieldses.org> <20210121164645.GA20964@fieldses.org> <161118128472.1232039.11746799833066425131.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <1794286.1611248577@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <1851804.1611255313@warthog.procyon.org.uk> <1856291.1611259704@warthog.procyon.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1856291.1611259704@warthog.procyon.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 08:08:24PM +0000, David Howells wrote: > J. Bruce Fields wrote: > > So, I'm still confused: there must be some case where we know fscache > > actually works reliably and doesn't corrupt your data, right? > > Using ext2/3, for example. I don't know under what circumstances xfs, ext4 > and btrfs might insert/remove blocks of zeros, but I'm told it can happen. Do ext2/3 work well for fscache in other ways? --b.