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The >>>> server reports that's not supported, so the client tries COPY. >>>> The COPY works, and the reply shows that the COPY was synchro- >>>> nous. Thus there's no need for a callback, and I'm not tripping >>>> over backchannel misbehavior. >>>=20 >>> Make sure the testfile is of sufficient size. I'm not sure what the thr= eshold is, but if it's too small, it'll just do a synchronous copy for me a= s well. >>> I'm using a 50MB file in my tests. >>=20 >> The threshold for intra-server copy is (2*rsize) of the source server. >=20 > The threshold for inter-server copy is (14*rsize). This restriction is to= be removed in the next merge. >=20 > e-Dai >=20 >> Any copy smaller than this is done synchronously. Thank you, Dai, that helped. I was able to reproduce with a 200MB source file on an xfs-backed export. Looking at the issue now. -- Chuck Lever