Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:5bc5:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id os5csp666276pxb; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 07:14:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxfkixViEVf17dNJWtik0KoQjNwrWYz+wSGaeK47o/1JB6NpZS33ASZK5mQmSgmahYI9MQP X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:6c8:: with SMTP id v8mr7699848ejb.428.1634825677393; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 07:14:37 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1634825677; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=L89IWfQyeBAgMbf9VqE17VScD/TKeOcVNBHv0WJYQriZVZaGGTr93VgahCqeuwpXpX xUtWSE2X3RN3H2ypujaQXg6qEJf/CNTyRNKAwA8eGc2XkwfpAOOfKQIELU/lkLfMr4nk Y4mEuZYMaS2kgAVSzArGbJpCgK67zUnbQzQF5a7skL+xtfNAx/UqYqp8eC/jr7+eAQf9 5HK1zQG538015KJmpdEy5k0/szLpGI9z5DT+bvlOamuIHqJj2XVEdZeH6JiZWUhN5+uM txCiyL/luC3xh7Wgyxg+/bLqXZG0+N8e+k+5VcPrk9QUTTokry5nY1R3liBrg1IlR4Mq ySVQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date :dkim-signature:dkim-filter; bh=I6DamTb7z8zUL9FhNKT6FNdQlEhtr8K2DNirFTT4rUs=; b=FIkW62wTsWWMALbKoGtYU+abJ85FL6dPEeXMPXpI/BJ5ciLZkRyAj+dotPrWPeJ+6H kVjStYgZjQQc0ZDgqhUsWr3VgBw61FRBzlhOr1Mxrk9iHJF/LExt7mKHoCD1u05fQmQV 2n91dJc5GHpam7kGwv2AER6o3M59IBRd7TDRLT7DyUGV7wtPWD4MaGh4HXXhLS3nKYrb s67yJBiWRtWamErGl1qlPUWQP1y1XrNFXVhBV4RgIDy0PvphL7ZHbA7KQtOPMkcflWND R3D1r8auEjT12+IiqUeAdHrMnI0sLgoGU/uK/7LT44cKKAtCk1ibpgE68fGpOAvCHrhK cSWA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@fieldses.org header.s=default header.b=OljQVyeA; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x2si6855382edq.409.2021.10.21.07.13.52; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 07:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@fieldses.org header.s=default header.b=OljQVyeA; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230317AbhJUOPt (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 21 Oct 2021 10:15:49 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:35632 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230123AbhJUOPs (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Oct 2021 10:15:48 -0400 Received: from fieldses.org (fieldses.org [IPv6:2600:3c00:e000:2f7::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8814C0613B9 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 07:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fieldses.org (Postfix, from userid 2815) id A0706647C; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 10:13:29 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 fieldses.org A0706647C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fieldses.org; s=default; t=1634825609; bh=I6DamTb7z8zUL9FhNKT6FNdQlEhtr8K2DNirFTT4rUs=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=OljQVyeA0yvAW6+0F8Qz0mrnOMv0eK2yqmQ5HXhz24axOuxoyuXQVciu1vK0EKp7t ih/gWheQpjyOxjNKEtyuMlBweqUG5iClz+SwcCjFSDPgumtgZyxPc5/wg+7DvSNbH2 a8o7M84iEBxZVn5ddAUp+dxnmbK+tNrpE5YBGOvg= Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 10:13:29 -0400 From: Bruce Fields To: Trond Myklebust , Anna Schumaker Cc: Chuck Lever III , Olga Kornievskaia , Linux NFS Mailing List , Dai Ngo , Steve Dickson Subject: Re: server-to-server copy by default Message-ID: <20211021141329.GC25711@fieldses.org> References: <20211020155421.GC597@fieldses.org> <0492823C-5F90-494E-8770-D0EC14130846@oracle.com> <20211020181512.GE597@fieldses.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 07:04:53PM +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote: > Unprivileged mounting seems like a different question to me. > Related, possibly, but not the same. I'd rather leave that > discussion to another thread. Well, I'd be curious if client maintainers have any thoughts. The NFS client still disallows unprivileged mounts, right? Is it something you think could be supported, and if so, do you have an idea what's left to do? Trond, I remember asking you about unprivileged mounts at a bakeathon a few years ago, and at the time you seemed to think it'd be a reasonable thing to do eventually, and the one obstacle you mentioned was that the client wasn't capable of maintaining separate state in different namespaces. That's fixed, isn't it? --b.