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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y21si3171922pgk.116.2022.02.21.15.21.39; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 15:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@dneg.com header.s=google header.b=Uc2b2bBb; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=dneg.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1358335AbiBUMxf (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 21 Feb 2022 07:53:35 -0500 Received: from mxb-00190b01.gslb.pphosted.com ([23.128.96.19]:51078 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1358348AbiBUMxc (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Feb 2022 07:53:32 -0500 Received: from mail-ej1-x632.google.com (mail-ej1-x632.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::632]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 568521C10F for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 04:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ej1-x632.google.com with SMTP id vz16so33130246ejb.0 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 04:53:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dneg.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=lIkxt07Z4ubFK1kFr3bnbEVzRqiPa8qpMf+645NMzTs=; b=Uc2b2bBbBADpRr8LS0IM6DNXV35/eiaAkUi+OmEsBdY3lHYUDNTmDyMI5IzsEBv1Fc GzKBUf+jIYCVnw8/ODWsPUMYdcCgqRRbTo0mU/J4jT+jnK81NcclFgb2oubn1YR0EJL7 1Yb/MBM0Xj5Y8yx7BpgPI8hjgzdduB6cSHC6D3OOUhDS8cTYpNF1z1wTsq3CxhfZZ/zj 9dJG07p9J2V1FvEbnX016FUEw3B3FRyaek+Z7oQnRj9D+mYbht0O4si+lOwkn49MCZvR OI3HNyBTWIdyZ4l3rjsHvct7hOiRjr51a9gjo1zPXjvBh7U6v9gaYwrYDMWU+o3d6y/E 6kAA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lIkxt07Z4ubFK1kFr3bnbEVzRqiPa8qpMf+645NMzTs=; b=kKwFCIoATRcVWK66CjZ/L1ECayTItdtJgpKMzhJlvxjTdhI6gYHhwPr3lQUuodBVxJ zf4t87oysRAv7WWXklZfDLFnYHD8wBdmkVVaW7whHWJxHIrMf7yJFvrYN6cs4Dn6Q8Nm C2Yovkcw2oq4UBWUMBVlzeJnQUUpDqVqFaaJkrH+rAfThncz5hG7N2N4entnXWgB/iMz VOyds/gbHYdx5DWfk4mxD89gaxycVfBc8H9/V/zA0YfoFRHVbnVPDSaVh6/5A6zzTy7z KkGV47bBLt20bBUikThxrcWH1j9E6f5L8hJXT4yShxYFbFD4xcHS3w68AJJqsFQfSgpX 9ZaA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530L3q5u2IO9sq3xhcxyUgmn2klXCM/skLTtUBISTq2pTI7IgBJi 2Y4xXhh6burRJx3+1FJko5dqAU/IA1hzxrhhgeElRD2kzXnm6w== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:e13:b0:6ce:21ca:1b91 with SMTP id l19-20020a1709060e1300b006ce21ca1b91mr16135536eji.193.1645447987899; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 04:53:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6b528d29-1a9c-d16e-f649-5d994d6222b8@talpey.com> <3849f322-94f7-fe73-4e08-1660be516384@talpey.com> <66383037-8263-4D7B-B96C-C9CED24042FC@oracle.com> <164523140095.10228.17507004698722847604@noble.neil.brown.name> <194829a2c280364faa6e9c70dbaee463101453a7.camel@hammerspace.com> <164543035585.17923.4120371632609985618@noble.neil.brown.name> In-Reply-To: <164543035585.17923.4120371632609985618@noble.neil.brown.name> From: Daire Byrne Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 12:52:32 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NFSv4 versus NFSv3 parallel client op/s To: NeilBrown Cc: Trond Myklebust , "chuck.lever@oracle.com" , "tom@talpey.com" , "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org I certainly have nothing to contribute in terms of implementation details (you all know best). I will happily test and provide numbers though. I guess it was just one of those (out of the box) corner cases where NFSv3 > NFSv4.2 that I thought was worth highlighting. For now, I probably have no other option but to use NFSv3 for any high latency clients that require lots of concurrency as future changes to the server side per client slot count logic is unlikely to make its way into this generation of Linux distros (e.g. RHEL8). Daire On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 07:59, NeilBrown wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Feb 2022, Trond Myklebust wrote: > > On Sat, 2022-02-19 at 11:43 +1100, NeilBrown wrote: > > > On Sat, 19 Feb 2022, Chuck Lever III wrote: > > > > > > > > For the Linux NFS server, there is an enhancement request open > > > > in this area: > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.linux-nfs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375 > > > > > > > > If there are any relevant design notes or performance results, > > > > that would be the place to put them. > > > > > > I wonder if I have a login there.. > > > > > > > If you're having trouble setting one up, then let me know. I should be > > able to help. > > Thanks. I couldn't find any evidence in email history of ever having > one, so I tried creating one and it went completely smoothly. :-) > > NeilBrown