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Subject: AW: Problems with NFS4.1 on ESXi
Thread-Topic: Problems with NFS4.1 on ESXi
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Hi,=0A=
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was someone able to check the NFS3 vs NFS4.1 traces (https://easyupload.io/=
7bt624)? I was due to quarantine I was so far not able to test it against F=
reeBSD.=0A=
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Would it maybe make any difference updating the Ubuntu based Linux kernel f=
rom 5.13 to 5.15?=0A=
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Br=0A=
Andreas=0A=
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Von: crispyduck@outlook.at <crispyduck@outlook.at>=0A=
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. April 2022 08:08=0A=
An: Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>; J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.=
org>; linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>=0A=
Cc: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>=0A=
Betreff: AW: Problems with NFS4.1 on ESXi =0A=
=A0=0A=
I tried again to reproduce the "sometimes working" case, but at the moment =
it always fails. No Idea why it in the past sometimes worked.=A0=0A=
Why are this much lookups in the trace? Dont see this on other NFS clients.=
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The traces with nfs3 where it works and nfs41 where it always fails are her=
e:=0A=
https://easyupload.io/7bt624=0A=
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Both from mount till start of vm import (testvm).=0A=
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exportfs -v:=0A=
/zfstank/sto1/ds110=0A=
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<world>(async,wdelay,hide,crossmnt,no_subtr=
ee_check,fsid=3D74345722,mountpoint,sec=3Dsys,rw,secure,no_root_squash,no_a=
ll_squash)=0A=
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I hope I can also do some tests against a FreeBSD server end of the week.=
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regards,=0A=
Andreas=0A=
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Von: Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>=0A=
Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. April 2022 22:39=0A=
An: J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org>=0A=
Cc: crispyduck@outlook.at <crispyduck@outlook.at>; Chuck Lever III <chuck.l=
ever@oracle.com>; Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>=0A=
Betreff: Re: Problems with NFS4.1 on ESXi =0A=
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Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca> wrote:=0A=
[stuff snipped]=0A=
> In FreeBSD, it actually hangs onto the parent's FH (verbatim), but mostly=
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> so it can do Open/Claim_NULLs for it. There is nothing in FreeBSD that=0A=
> tries to subvert FH guessing.=0A=
Oops, this is client side, not server side. (I forgot which hat I was weari=
ng;-)=0A=
The FreeBSD server does not keep track of parents.=0A=
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rick=0A=
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--b.=