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It >>> isn't >>> changed on any connection failure. It isn't changed by any other >>> code >>> path in the RPC client. >>> >>> So none of this applies to the case of a dead server. >> Sorry if I'm not clear. What I meant by a dead server is a dead NFS >> server and not rpcbind service. So in this case we get EACCES from >> rpcbind and we retry. >> >>> It applies to the case of a live server, where rpcbind is running >>> and >>> accessible to the client and where, for some reason or another, it >>> is >>> taking an exceptionally long time to register the service we are >>> looking up the port for (either NLM or NFSv3). >> Yes, this is the problem that I'm facing. >> >>> So where are you seeing this process take 90 seconds? Why do we >>> need to >>> wait for that long before we can finally conclude that the >>> particular >>> service in question is not going to come back up? >> 90 secs wait is for when the NFS server never come up and we keep >> getting >> EACCES from rpcbind for this whole time. >> > OK, so the 90s is completely arbitrary then, and was only chosen > because it fits your particular server? > > To me, that appears to invalidate the entire premise of commit > 0b760113a3a1 that we can rely on rpcbind to tell us if the service is > present or not. > In that case, I'd rather rip out the task->tk_rebind_retry counter, and > just rely on standard hard/soft task semantics. Okay, I will resend the patch that relies on standard hard/soft task semantics. Thanks, -Dai