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Subject: Re: Too many ENOSPC errors
From:   Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To:     Chris Perl <cperl@janestreet.com>
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Date:   Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:17:50 -0400
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On Mon, 2023-06-12 at 13:49 -0400, Chris Perl wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 1:30=E2=80=AFPM Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org> =
wrote:
> >=20
> > On Mon, 2023-06-12 at 11:58 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> >=20
> > >=20
> > > Got it: I think I see what's happening. filemap_sample_wb_err just ca=
lls
> > > errseq_sample, which does this:
> > >=20
> > > errseq_t errseq_sample(errseq_t *eseq)
> > > {
> > >         errseq_t old =3D READ_ONCE(*eseq);
> > >=20
> > >         /* If nobody has seen this error yet, then we can be the firs=
t. */
> > >         if (!(old & ERRSEQ_SEEN))
> > >                 old =3D 0;
> > >         return old;
> > > }
> > >=20
> > > Because no one has seen that error yet (ERRSEQ_SEEN is clear), the wr=
ite
> > > ends up being the first to see it and it gets back a 0, even though t=
he
> > > error happened before the sample.
> > >=20
> > > The above behavior is what we want for the sample that we do at open(=
)
> > > time, but not what's needed for this use-case. We need a new helper t=
hat
> > > samples the value regardless of whether it has already been seen:
> > >=20
> > > errseq_t errseq_peek(errseq_t *eseq)
> > > {
> > >       return READ_ONCE(*eseq);
> > > }
> > >=20
> > > ...but we'll also need to fix up errseq_check to handle differences
> > > between the SEEN bit.
> > >=20
> > > I'll see if I can spin up a patch for that. Stay tuned.
> >=20
> > This may not be fixable with the way that NFS is trying to use errseq_t=
.
> >=20
> > The fundamental problem is that we need to mark the errseq_t in the
> > mapping as SEEN when we sample it, to ensure that a later error is
> > recorded and not ignored.
> >=20
> > But...if the error hasn't been reported yet and we mark it SEEN here,
> > and then a later error doesn't occur, then a later open won't have its
> > errseq_t set to 0, and that unseen error could be lost.
> >=20
> > It's a bit of a pity: as originally envisioned, the errseq_t mechanism
> > would provide for this sort of use case, but we added this patch not
> > long after the original code went in, and it changed those semantics:
> >=20
> >     b4678df184b3 errseq: Always report a writeback error once
> >=20
> > I don't see a good way to do this using the current errseq_t mechanism,
> > given these competing needs. I'll keep thinking about it though. Maybe
> > we could add some sort of store and forward mechanism for fsync on NFS?
> > That could get rather complex though.
>=20
> Can/should it be marked SEEN when the initial close(2) from tee(1)
> reports the error?
>=20

No. Most software doesn't check for errors on close(), and for good
reason: there's no requirement that any data be written back before
close() returns. A successful return is meaningless.

It turns out that NFSv4 (usually) writes back the data before a close
returns, but you don't want to rely on that.

> Part of the reason I had originally asked about `nfs_file_flush' (i.e.
> what close(2) calls) using `file_check_and_advance_wb_err' instead of
> `filemap_check_wb_err' was because I was drawn to comparing
> `nfs_file_flush' against `nfs_file_fsync' as it seems like in the 3.10
> based EL7 kernels, the former used to delegate to the latter (by way
> of `vfs_fsync') and so they had consistent behavior, whereas now they
> do not.

I think the problem is in some of the changes to write that have come
into play since then. They tried to use errseq_t to track errors over a
small window, but the underlying infrastructure is not quite suited for
that at the moment.

I think we can get there though by carving another flag bit out of the
counter in the errseq_t. I'm working on a patch for that now.

Cheers,
--=20
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>