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[2604:1380:40f1:3f00::1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r14-20020a63514e000000b005b909e93e2dsi52216pgl.522.2023.11.22.14.48.06 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-nfs+bounces-33-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 2604:1380:40f1:3f00::1 as permitted sender) client-ip=2604:1380:40f1:3f00::1; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=DKVRWO7k; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-nfs+bounces-33-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 2604:1380:40f1:3f00::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="linux-nfs+bounces-33-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org"; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Received: from smtp.subspace.kernel.org (wormhole.subspace.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sy.mirrors.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58A18B20C1E for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2023 22:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D5D1D53A; Wed, 22 Nov 2023 22:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="DKVRWO7k" X-Original-To: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org Received: from mail-ed1-x534.google.com (mail-ed1-x534.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::534]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A02B71B9 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ed1-x534.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5440f25dcc7so415572a12.0 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:47:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1700693273; x=1701298073; darn=vger.kernel.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=NrBIHfC+5zBb9zzXQFkmIwWER0SS5u3tXBvXWaeWwjU=; b=DKVRWO7koXaLKP2wzZrUSIsv7qd6aPuXV7rC6alxDLZRHGPbkAL/O3CSrwSE4mFzlK vD74NwaP7HX4bGbSXb3ZlYHcuDB0xTi/3sHVWFz77s7OfcSc9gGGmcs7cSj2tsOXMzVP HjXKvfyjDnWjDjVd7qcr6kLkA/REUvSUNlzhVczlVI0WF4DT62HiOK0z/tccCHmkGFyU knwfTFw7iRLNRSxfkgzI0heQ63Qx7JGdIBz/pZQGyV+iG++UpxUt/YYBnC6dDknuhjr0 cnMxZTNKIg9XWKRDFFcoIQdBjfZAfkFtaE23J6csKOGjDTYnGNRUHAQOnfCqHReHaXSH 6uWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1700693273; x=1701298073; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=NrBIHfC+5zBb9zzXQFkmIwWER0SS5u3tXBvXWaeWwjU=; b=EymrxMUwsWFo7AQOUWu3Lt8KRN9Q5soCpJ1d7Ue4ny+vzuiAbiUTMyXaxIH6gHe1H5 rlR3hiYKC4e40s47N1dqbUWlMyxmcNKUSXDw6iJiI85VjTObWvgMxlD77pCOxuRJOz6p VUyhLtQnM118Bm5koYBfSJkdlsaphxXWEqJnKYTS8AaZhIAfaOfny59wAydis47dzChA 1Bwn9klw6otfBdWLzeTzUQ3DE4oabimgS4dQooiBaaqa2gWyVb7z8LjRuSN67YaUWSRT m79UvSLfCBW4ToekosK0LUxA6PpT4uu8+cuBLUFr33WN47czqeKYZaExu7KGKdv6sSp8 irGg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwvIXHPVkMOedI+Fmti9+voEGx0kLRasPcQg2nFA7PkfXZuXOYL KmZB3PnoidTzYINSec8kMDJ0G7g7ZlG4PkMYSqtxmFwr X-Received: by 2002:aa7:c2d1:0:b0:540:3286:d2e8 with SMTP id m17-20020aa7c2d1000000b005403286d2e8mr2609913edp.18.1700693273430; Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:47:53 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Cedric Blancher Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 23:47:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How does READ_PLUS differ from READ? To: Linux NFS Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 at 19:02, Anna Schumaker wro= te: > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 12:59=E2=80=AFPM Cedric Blancher > wrote: > > > > On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 at 18:48, Anna Schumaker = wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 12:38=E2=80=AFPM Cedric Blancher > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Good evening! > > > > > > > > How does READ_PLUS differ from READ? Has anyone made a simpler > > > > presentation (PowerPoint slides) than the RFCs? > > > > > > No slides, but at a high level READ_PLUS can compress out long ranges > > > of zeroes in a read reply by returning a HOLE segment instead of the > > > actual zeroes. It's perfectly valid for the server to skip the zero > > > detection and return everything as a data segment, however. > > > > So how do you differ between > > 1. a hole, aka no filesystem blocks allocated > > 2. a long sequence of valid data with all zero bytes in them > > That's up to the server! It could use something like fiemap or lseek > with SEEK_HOLE or SEEK_DATA. It could also scan the data to see if > there are any zeroes that could be compressed out. How can the client figure out whether the data in a READ_PLUS reply are zeros of data, or zeros from a hole? Ced --=20 Cedric Blancher [https://plus.google.com/u/0/+CedricBlancher/] Institute Pasteur