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On 2020-02-18 17:50, Bird, Tim wrote:
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@ti.com>
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> On 13/02/20 6:33 pm, Bird, Tim wrote:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Kishon,
>>>>
>>>> On 13/02/2020 11:44, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>>>> Matthias,
>>>>>
>>>>> As I learnt from Angela Brown (LF leadership team), those videos are
>>>>> accidentally deleted by a former LF employee and no one has the backup
>>>>> for those videos.
>>>
>>> Thanks for answering, Kishon.  Sorry to not get back to you sooner, Matthias.
>>> I can confirm what Angela said.  The videos are unfortunately not available.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah, too bad. Never trust the cloud ;)
>>>>
>>>> If anybody has some of the videos offline, it would be good to try to recover as
>>>> much as possible.
>>>
>>> The LF tried to go back to the original videographer, and see if they had backups,
>>> but they did not.  The videos that were made by Bootlin (formerly Free Electrons),
>>> (not that particular year), do have backups, and can be accessed on their web site.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm especially interested in yours about PCIe, but others have valuable
>>>> information for sure :)
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, unless someone scraped the video from YouTube, the video
>>> is likely lost forever.  :-(
>>>
>>> I'd like to start a project to scrape the ELC videos from YouTube (for other years)
>>> that were done by videographers, and for which no known backups exist.  This is to
>>> prevent something like this from happening in the future for other videos.  If anyone
>>> would like to help with this project, please let me know.
>>
>> Do we have permission from Youtube to download the videos? A quick look
>> at their terms [1] indicate we are not allowed to download the content
>> "The following restrictions apply to your use of the Service. You are
>> not allowed to:
>>
>> access, reproduce, download, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display,
>> sell, license, alter, modify or otherwise use any part of the Service or
>> any Content except: (a) as expressly authorized by the Service; or (b)
>> with prior written permission from YouTube and, if applicable, the
>> respective rights holders; "
>>
>> [1] -> https://www.youtube.com/t/terms
> 
> I'd be downloading the videos as a representative of the Linux Foundation, which is
> the entity that holds the copyright on the videos.  It might be easier for me to 
> get access to the LF's YouTube account.  Maybe there's a "Download my videos"
> option which would make the scraping unnecessary (I don't post stuff to YouTube
> so I don't know what features their author accounts provide.)  But if it does end up being
> necessary, YouTube can hardly complain about the copyright holder downloading
> and copying their own video.

Hi,

Not sure about the "Download my videos" option, but there is:

https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/

which I have used and can recommend.

> In any event I'll check with the powers that be a the Linux Foundation, and make sure
> I at least have their permission.
>  -- Tim
>