Hello!
NB, I'm not deeply involved in bluetooth neither dbus development,
just a "power user". If my thoughts are wrong, just discard them.
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:47:01 +0100, Johan Hedberg wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2007, Daniel Gollub wrote:
>> If the hcid would wait for the dbus daemon this wouldn't be a
>> problem. At least hcid can handle a dbus daemon restart, maybe we
>> can enhance this.
>
> Sounds like a useful feature.
Shouldn't be the contrary? I mean, on a clean Debian etch, every
dbus-dependent service is started by dbus:
=====
root@gismo:/home/luca# ls -l /etc/dbus-1/eventd.d/
total 16
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1901 2006-11-11 15:38 20hal
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1091 2006-10-24 15:22 24dhcdbd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 2007-01-07 21:53 25avahi-daemon -> \
../../init.d/avahi-daemon
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1766 2006-11-30 22:22 25NetworkManager
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1684 2006-11-30 22:22 26NetworkManagerDispatcher
root@gismo:/home/luca# invoke-rc.d dbus start
Starting system message bus: dbus.
Starting Hardware abstraction layer: hald.
Starting DHCP D-Bus daemon: dhcdbd.
Starting network connection manager: NetworkManager.
Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon: avahi-daemon.
Starting network events dispatcher: NetworkManagerDispatcher.
root@gismo:/home/luca#
=====
Just my 0.02€...
Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca
Hi Luca,
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 12:31:12AM +0100, Luca Capello wrote:
> NB, I'm not deeply involved in bluetooth neither dbus development,
> just a "power user". If my thoughts are wrong, just discard them.
They are not wrong, it is just a different use case :-)
> Shouldn't be the contrary? I mean, on a clean Debian etch, every
> dbus-dependent service is started by dbus:
=
> root@gismo:/home/luca# invoke-rc.d dbus start
> Starting system message bus: dbus.
> Starting Hardware abstraction layer: hald.
> Starting DHCP D-Bus daemon: dhcdbd.
> Starting network connection manager: NetworkManager.
> Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon: avahi-daemon.
> Starting network events dispatcher: NetworkManagerDispatcher.
> =
> root@gismo:/home/luca#
This is about the same if i statically enable the bluetooth service
on a SUSE machine. But i would like to avoid that (no need to run
hcid on a machine that will never see a BT device). At the same time,
i like to have it "just work", without the user needing to configure
it. So i start the bluetooth services via udev, when a BT device
is connected.
This works very well once the machine is up and running. If the device
is connected during boot, it is different, because the udev "coldplug"
happens before most of the services are started.
I hope this clears up my (and Daniels) intentions :-)
Have fun
-- =
Stefan Seyfried
QA / R&D Team Mobile Devices | "Any ideas, John?"
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, N=FCrnberg | "Well, surrounding them's out." =
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