From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: gilboad@gmail.com, BlueZ development <bluez-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
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Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 20:04:30 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] Suggesting bluez_pinhelper
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Hi Gilboa,

> > I am not
> > really open for crazy hacks. 
> 
> Why crazy hack?
> 
> kdebluetooth aside, If -I- (being, among others, the IceWM Fedora
> maintainer) can use this wrapper (coupled with zenity and/or xdialog)
> and create a workable out-of-the-box bluetooth experience on IceWM
> (without the bluez-gnome dep-chain) and other low-end WM's - doesn't it
> enhance the user experience?

I agree that the bluez-gnome dependency chain is crazy, but that is a
GNOME issue. However you can write a simple nice passkey agent for every
windowing system that you wanna use. The scripting part is not a clean
solution. We should have never used scripts for entering pin codes at
all, but at that point of time any useful solution was not ready.

> > The passkey-agent.c source code is mainly
> > an example on how to write a passkey agent and was used for initial
> > testing.
> 
> ... And hopefully I took it, expanded it, and put it to good use.
> 
> At best, I managed to enhance the bluetooth experience on
> low-end/older/minimal distro/machines/configuration/etc. At worst,
> (after some clean up) I created yet-another-how-to-do-passkey example.
> 
> Having said all that, I'm far from forcing the issue down your throat...
> I merely suggesting. If you don't like the idea, I'll keep it
> Fedora-only, until a working DBUS patch is released... or until KDE4
> comes out.

I am fine with having something KDE specific since I don't really care
about KDE, but this is not solution that is acceptable by Bluez
upstream.

Regards

Marcel


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