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Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
From: Matthew Grant <grantma@anathoth.gen.nz>
Subject: Re: [Bluez-users] Re: PROBLEM: Apple powerbook, Apple BT keyboard, keyboard does not reconnect on reboot
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:34:11 +1300
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Marcel,

I will get the Apple bluetooth properly fixed over the next few weeks.

My experience with commercial router development on DECnet, TCP/IP and 
OSPF routing and Linux network device drivers will be very useful here. 
  Things are working enough to show that there is not that much wrong.  
Just needs a few hours getting familiar with the code, BT protocols, 
and fixing the bugs.

Pretty busy these next few weeks, so it may take some time.  Could you 
please give me a few pointers to find CVS/Bitkeeper stuff, and protocol 
specs/docs?

Cheers,

Matthew Grant

On 25/10/2004, at 9:59 PM, Matthew Grant wrote:

> Marcel,
>
> Back in OS X to get this posted. Wish I had linux BT going enough so 
> that I could easily use the keyboard which I am bound to because of 
> RSI reasons.
>
> There is definitely more to the Apple bluetooth than the bluez-utils 
> can interface with.  It looks like Apple have changed the CSR firmware 
> so that they can turn the USB BT dongle on and off for going on 
> aeroplanes, and there is something with the commands to delete and add 
> parings that is different as well.  Bluez does not look like it is 
> doing this.
>
> 'hidd --show' does not list any devices, even when 'hcitool con' lists 
> authed encrypted parings.  'hidd --killall' does not work, and 'hidd 
> --kill <BT-mac>' does kill off the pairing
>
> I went back into OS X and deleting the pairings there, rebooted back 
> to linux, reformed the pairings  using 'hidd --search' , 'hidd --show' 
> didn't list anything.  Rebooted from linux to linux again, and the 
> keyboard did not connect.  When rebooting to OS X there were no 
> parings showing either.  Maybe I should not mix them, but I need to 
> get linux working fully with this onboard apple BT dongle so that I 
> can use linux on this laptop.
>
> Does hidd save pairings to disk somewhere?  I am wondering if OS X is 
> doing this in addition to the flash on the built-in USB dongle.
>
> Anyone else have experience with Apple powerbooks/keyboards, and Bluez 
> HID stuff?
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew Grant
>
> On 25/10/2004, at 4:55 PM, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
>
>>> The Lower level layer is definitely connected, but the keyboard 
>>> events
>>> are not generating keyboard input at all.  I have to switch the 
>>> keyboard
>>> off, and then switch it back on, and it renegotiates, and it all 
>>> starts
>>> working.
>>
>> What does "hidd --show" tell you when the keyboard is connected, but 
>> not
>> working?
>
> It does not show anything.
>
>
>>> This test is not using security mode 3 yet, though I will be doing 
>>> this
>>> to prevent people sniffing passwords.... but the same problem happens
>>> then.
>>
>> Actually I thought, that the Apple keyboard is always in security mode
>> three, but from your dumps it looks like that this is not true when it
>> reconnects. What does "hcitool con" say about the reconnect ACL link?
>>
>>> When I boot from OS X back into Linux, the problem does not occur.
>>
>> This is strange and actually I never had any problems with the Apple 
>> HID
>> stuff, but I used it on a normal Intel machine.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Marcel
>>
>>
>>

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