Return-Path: Message-ID: <44BF9B15.1020607@uen.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:02:45 -0600 From: Brad Midgley MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BlueZ users Subject: [Bluez-users] verizon locking out dialout linux Reply-To: BlueZ users List-Id: BlueZ users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: bluez-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: bluez-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net Guys, Verizon Wireless here in the US is intentionally locking out linux and other standards-based clients from its dialup networking. There may be a technical solution, like ignoring sdp and scanning for open rfcomm channels but I really would rather have them give me back the feature. I'm really bugged. In any case, bluetooth.org shouldn't let them advertise this as the bluetooth dialup profile! This is the message as I sent to the bluetooth.org "contact us" page: ======================================================================= Verizon Wireless (VZW) advertises the use of Bluetooth Dialup Networking profile but in many cases substitutes a proprietary protocol. The profile is mentioned by name here: http://support.vzw.com/faqs/Bluetooth/faq.html#item13 excerpt: ====================================================================== What is the Bluetooth Dial-up Networking (DUN) profile? The Bluetooth dial-up networking profile allows the use of the Bluetooth handset as a modem (please consult the Bluetooth functionality charts to see if a specific Verizon Wireless device supports Bluetooth DUN). In this configuration, Bluetooth acts as a replacement for the cable that is used to connect the computer to the handset in tethered mode. The user has several steps to take before Bluetooth dial-up networking can occur: 1. The laptop/computer must have Bluetooth capability (typically by using a PCMCIA card or USB dongle for hardware and the associated Bluetooth client for software). 2. The laptop/computer must be paired to the handset 3. A dial-up networking profile must be created on the laptop/computer (e.g., manually created using the Microsoft wizard or automatically created by the VZAccess client software). ====================================================================== and relates that to support in several of its phones: http://dts.vzw.com/pdf/BT_Chart_Handsets.pdf However, on a growing body of their phones, what they are actually offering is a proprietary networking protocol that requires the use of VZW's "VZAccess" software. Standards-based implementations of the dialup profile client will not be able to connect. I discovered this after an upgrade to the latest software version for the VZW-branded Motorola e815. Before the upgrade, the phone supported the dialup profile perfectly but now the phone does not even properly advertise SDP records for the dialup profile. "Mike" in the VZW level-2 data services group was able to confirm that standards-based dialup was intentionally disabled. Obviously this situation dilutes the strength of the Bluetooth trademark. Please encourage them to come up with a new term for their proprietary wireless networking protocol or bring their phones back into technical compliance. Brad ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Bluez-users mailing list Bluez-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bluez-users