Date:   Wed, 5 Jan 2022 21:13:06 -0400
From:   Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To:     Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 00/16] padata, vfio, sched: Multithreaded VFIO page pinning
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On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 07:46:40PM -0500, Daniel Jordan wrote:

> Get ready to parallelize.  In particular, pinning can fail, so make jobs
> undo-able.
> 
>      5  vfio/type1: Pass mm to vfio_pin_pages_remote()
>      6  vfio/type1: Refactor dma map removal
>      7  vfio/type1: Parallelize vfio_pin_map_dma()
>      8  vfio/type1: Cache locked_vm to ease mmap_lock contention

In some ways this kind of seems like overkill, why not just have
userspace break the guest VA into chunks and call map in parallel?
Similar to how it already does the prealloc in parallel?

This is a simpler kernel job of optimizing locking to allow
concurrency.

It is also not good that this inserts arbitary cuts in the IOVA
address space, that will cause iommu_map() to be called with smaller
npages, and could result in a long term inefficiency in the iommu.

I don't know how the kernel can combat this without prior knowledge of
the likely physical memory layout (eg is the VM using 1G huge pages or
something)..

Personally I'd rather see the results from Matthew's work to allow GUP
to work on folios efficiently before reaching to this extreme.

The results you got of only 1.2x improvement don't seem so
compelling. Based on the unpin work I fully expect that folio
optimized GUP will do much better than that with single threaded..

Jason