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Donenfeld" To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, graf@amazon.com, mikelley@microsoft.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, adrian@parity.io, lersek@redhat.com, berrange@redhat.com, linux@dominikbrodowski.net, jannh@google.com, mst@redhat.com, rafael@kernel.org, len.brown@intel.com, pavel@ucw.cz, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, colmmacc@amazon.com, tytso@mit.edu, arnd@arndb.de Subject: Re: propagating vmgenid outward and upward Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org Hey again, On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 04:42:47PM +0100, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > For (B), it's a little bit trickier. But I think our options follow the > same rubric. We can expose a generation counter in the vDSO, with > semantics akin to the extern integer I described above. Or we could > expose that counter in a file that userspace could poll() on and receive > notifications that way. Or perhaps a third way. I'm all ears here. > Alex's team from Amazon last year proposed something similar to the vDSO > idea, except using mmap on a sysfs file, though from what I can tell, > that wound up being kind of complicated. Due to the fact that we're > _already_ racy, I think I'm most inclined at this point toward the > poll() approach for the same reasons as I prefer a notifier_block. But > on userspace I could be convinced otherwise, and I'd be interested in > totally different ideas here too. I implemented the poll() case here in 15 lines of code and found it remarkably simple to do: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220302143331.654426-1-Jason@zx2c4.com/ This is just a PoC/RFC for the sake of having something tangible to look at for this thread. It is notable to me, though, that implementing this was so minimal. Regards, Jason